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does it support Atrac 3/plus/type-s?
http://www.sony.net/Products/ATRAC3/
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Posted: 2005-08-16 11:30:31
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I'm not suprised. It is just a marketing ploy. To be honest i never expected the w800 to have any great advantage over k750's simple media player. All phone media players will improve in time. I don't feel se will differentiate the walkman phone much from other phones in the line up.
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Posted: 2005-08-16 11:39:10
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On 2005-08-15 23:54:42, starkisttunalover wrote:
Screw Ipods, the zen is better!
I love my W800i, although I do have to agree with masseur on all of his valid arguments!
What a well thought out comment. Had to take all of 2 seconds to come up with that.
The iPod was designed to provide a music experience. Nothing in its design stated that it was ground breaking technology. By using a tried and proven delivery system, hd and cache, it provides fewer things to go wrong and also provides for a basic user self service. This is the same argument that non-iPod users continue to use over and over and over to their detriment.
As for the w800i, it is a decent device but it is a compromise device. A combo phone, music player, camera. It does all of these okay, but none of them extremely well. Price is probably the deciding factor. An example are the headphones that come with it. They are not great, not even good, but for the average person, they are okay. I am also sure that the output stages of the audio are basic models as well. To get higher quality requires money and space, which is at a premium in a cellphone. Not to mention the amount of shielding to isolate the radio from the analog audio sections.
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Posted: 2005-08-16 13:17:47
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Have people on this forum forgotten that it was Sony that introduced jog dial navigation to consumer products long before Apple & that the Ipod is just a first generation Rio design with a hard disc, hardly original! Its the marketing that Apple have got right!
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Posted: 2005-08-16 15:57:27
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indeed Mindscribe, but this is a W800i walkman capabilities discussion.
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Posted: 2005-08-16 15:59:41
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I do understand the topic, however forum members should not bring the Ipod with respect to the W800i. The fault the W800i( which is a first generation product and can be improved over time ) is that you cannot use Sonys online music service with it!! That was not a smart move by SE.
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Posted: 2005-08-16 16:17:41
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On 2005-08-16 16:17:41, MINDSCRIBE wrote:
I do understand the topic, however forum members should not bring the Ipod with respect to the W800i. The fault the W800i( which is a first generation product and can be improved over time ) is that you cannot use Sonys online music service with it!! That was not a smart move by SE.
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Interesting point but do you think that people will use the phone to actually download to their phones? I know that the Operators are hoping so, but I think the data prices are quite high, and the price point will actually be a deal killer.
That aside, the w800i is a nice idea but in my opinion a niche market device. Maybe something for people who can not be bothered to have a phone, camera, and music device as separates.
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Posted: 2005-08-16 19:39:52
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I never used the play now service and certainly wouldn't use any other direct download service offered on the phone preferring instead to buy CDs and transfer from there. Mind you I already have around 20gb of music on my hard drive from my collection of about 800 CDs back home in Sydney
I'm now permanantly using the headset part of my Sony MDR-EX71SL headset together with the bottom part of the HPM-70 that came with the W800 and the sound is far far superior through those but I'm still fairly confident my son will get the W800 at the end of this weeks trial by me and I'll revert to the K750
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Posted: 2005-08-16 19:46:14
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@Masseur Many people do not have the time to rip 800 plus CDs to HDD, so an online service dedicated to the W800i would have a good idea & put in place a standard for other phone companies to follow! I have a feeling that Nokia will launch such a service with the N91. SE should add WiFi to the W800i replacement!
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Posted: 2005-08-16 20:38:44
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rickster2kuk Posts: > 500
So are the supplied headphones with the W800i inferior to the K750's? That does suprise me - i actually thing the K750's headphones are pretty good esp for low end freq, plenty of bass. Would have thought thou that the W800 would have better headphones.
So the verdict with the W800 so far is good, but it doesn't live up to the hype.
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Posted: 2005-08-16 21:36:33
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