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It loooks like a phone with MP3 capabilities is still not a replacement for a dedicated MP3 player.
I have a Zen Xtra and just use my phone for backup if I forget my proper MP3 player.
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Posted: 2005-08-19 09:41:03
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that's the extremely frustrating thing: there's really no reason (now that 1 gig and 2 gig sticks are available) that it can't be -- SE is just lazy or incompetent, or both. even the unreal player i used on my p900 was a decent mp3 player - and here we are 2 years later with a better platform, and SE still can't write what is, for all intents and purposes, a college side project of an mp3 player.
if they hadn't crippled and broken their j2me implementation of the player, maybe someone would at least be able to write a sufficient java version of it.
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Posted: 2005-08-19 11:49:58
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Would it not be possible now with the JSR-75 API of K750/W800, to implement a java player?
I agree though that it is slack of SE, especially with the W800 Walkman badged phone version, but even for the K750 you'd expect it to have atleast the functionality of a basic mp3 player.
It doesn't affect me too much personally, since I've never used the random feature. But I still agree it's slack. It's surely not that hard to implement a random play that doesn't repeat songs within one cycle!!
There is so much else about these phones to be happy with though, overall I'm pretty impressed. Every phone I've ever had has some kind of compromise that seems completely unnecessary!
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Posted: 2005-08-19 18:21:35
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the current SE j2me implementation of Player is broken (when fetching it with a subclass of DataSource) and is crippled (when fetching it with a subclass of InputStream (a pause of many seconds between when the file is opened and the player actually starts sending sound)).
it's been reported to the SE engineers via the developer forums at SE, but i've no idea what effect that will have or when it will have it.
[ This Message was edited by: quaeler on 2005-08-19 19:04 ]
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Posted: 2005-08-19 20:03:57
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I know nothing about java programming at all, but from what you're saying quaeler, it IS possible (at least theoretically) to fix the J2ME implementation (i.e. add the ability to program a decent music player) with a firmware (i.e. software and not hardware) update?
If so, and if they fix it, I'd probably learn Java just to make myself a decent video player
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Posted: 2005-08-20 05:06:57
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On 2005-08-19 09:31:29, quaeler wrote:
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On 2005-08-19 03:20:27, darky wrote:
it does the job...
i totally beg to differ. any shuffle of a playlist of songs A, B , C, D, E that results in me hearing, for example:
D, A, B, D, E, A, C
is _not_ doing the job (and was written either by high school students or a cd player engineer transported from the late 80s)
I understand why you're pissed and I would be the same if I had that problem but I don't, did you upgrade to the latest firmware (although you shouldn't have to for these basic features, but S.E. software programmers are lame)
I have R1L and the only time it would repeat a song is if I stop the mediaplayer (not pause) and start playing another song,
the fact that I have a 1 gb card and over 250 songs kinda kills the odds though so i can't be sure
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Posted: 2005-08-20 05:46:09
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evinco: ya - it's possible to write a player in java, if SE fixes their current implementation
darky: it's true that the shuffle may be fixed in the current firmware -- i've been avoiding upgrading due to the video degredation that's been reported.. i guess i'm just being whiny at this point - and should ask which i value more: good video or correct shuffle play.. :- /
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Posted: 2005-08-20 13:01:51
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Yeah, it's a bitch. I started on R1J (and updated to R1L after a day)so I've never had the good video. Now I'm watching the w800 versus K750 images thread findings to decide if I'm going to put up with slightly worse pics, or upgrade to W800 firmware for better pics, but lose the activity button.
I don't think I'll do it though, the activity button is way to useful to me.
As far as mp3 players go, the K750 ergonomics (when using the player in phone lock mode) is better than many mp3 players I've owned. I find I can reach down to my belt and change volume or track/station with ease, and it becomes very intuitive. Many mp3 players can't even manage that. It's certainly doesn't have the features of a hard drive based player like iPod, iRiver etc, but I don't know if it has been marketed as a replacement for that end of the market.
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Posted: 2005-08-20 13:30:53
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Im getting the hang of it guys, weird problem, though, when i select media player for the muisc button, it just plays the last song?, is it suppossed to do that, or actually open the media player, not that it matters, as its easier like you say to just browse to the folder and hit play, rather pointless media player really.
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Posted: 2005-08-20 13:41:16
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If you just browse to the folder, not using the mediaplayer, the track advance feature (and other things I can't remember off hand) doesn't work. You are probably better of creating playlists by adding whole folders to a playlist, then playing that folder thru the mediaplayer by using the playlist.
As for the music button, it plays the last thing that was used, so for example the last song you listened to, or if you were listening to the radio the last time you used mediaplayer, it will start the radio.
Well, that's on K750 anyway...I've not had a chance to check out the W800 mediaplayer yet.
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Posted: 2005-08-20 14:02:22
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