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@skinjob, while not disputing your comments, I think the point is that if you already have a phone capable of music, be it a p series or the K750 or W800 (the original poster doesn't mention which), then why buy and carry a second device for music. certainly thats where I was coming from in my first reply here. I have a 2gb card in my phone and have never owned a separate mp3 player of any type
I am interested whether the music quality put out by ipod is really that much better than the same music played on an SE phone? I've never tried it myself but I do have a friend who is a real music aficionado who says he can tell the difference but I wonder if others feel the same?
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Posted: 2005-09-11 18:33:47
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@ masseur
I have both a K750 and an ipod (a 30G iPod Photo).
I actually find it less of a hassle to take my ipod with me than the K750 with relevant headphones/adpaters etc. (i can't stand the headphones that come with the K750!)
The ipod definitely has better sound quality, but the main reason I like it is that it's a purpose built mp3 player with by far the best UI of any around. The scrollwheel is a genius touch. The K750 is OK but really doesn't compare to an iPod. As I said before, I like my K750, but I love my iPod! There's much more to it than comparing specs. The iPod is so well made, looks great and is just generally a joy to use. The K750 is great too, and is by far the best phone I've ever had, but it's not even close to tempting me to leave my iPod at home for mp3s. iTunes is my preferred mp3 software, so it doesn't help that you can't use it with the k750 easily.
Given the choice between a 2G card for my K750 and a Nano, I'd bite your hand off for the Nano. Put a card and a nano on a table next to each other and see which one you'd go home with... Nano every time
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Posted: 2005-09-11 18:48:56
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I do find comments like this interesting and always try to be impartial and pass on such comments when people ask my opinion.
However I have mentioned in quite a few threads now that I am really for the idea of multi functional devices, even if that involves some compromise but as technology develops, those compromises are becoming less and less.
anyway, both my kids want some kind of ipod for christmas so that will be the perfect opportunity for me to actually try one!
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Posted: 2005-09-11 18:58:51
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I own a K750 and an ipod mini (and a digital camera).
I've got a few mp3s on my k750, but to be honest I don't like the earphones, it drains the battery, etc, etc...
The ipod mini stores and plays all my music. It lasts 18-20 hours, and works with whatever earphones I stick in it. I'm usually carrying a bag when travelling on trains, etc (this is the main time I listen to music), so the ipod usually stays in my bag.
Whilst multifuction devices have always been fun to own, I'd rather carry both a small mp3 player, and a small phone. The ipod nano is perfect as it's so small, it really IS pocketable (ipods are too big IMO).
I also think phone cameras are pretty useless. When I take a picture I want to keep it - develop it, and the K750 is borderline quality.
In fact, for a phone, I want all the great features and UI of the K750, but no camera - just a sleek, super strong (metal?) casing. Problem with getting small/camera-less phones is they are "budget" models, and hence rubbish!
PS: I second the fact that I feel my k750 is going to break if I press the buttons!
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Posted: 2005-09-11 19:15:34
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im one who likes to carry 2 devices as i feel the ipod sounds a better than the k750.
thats not to say the k750 is bad just not as good. it really comes down to me if you want 2 devices in your pocket and weather you want to compromise sound s quality
i can see both side here and for anyone who wants only 1 device you could do a lot worse than a k750/w800
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Posted: 2005-09-11 19:23:36
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I own a 20GB 4G ipod and a K750, the only mp3's i've ever put on the phone are those for ringtones, I could never imagine using it as a dedicated player as it's just ridiculously basic - I mean sure it plays the music but it doesn't really do anything and it's a damn pain in the arse to use for music. Plus buying enough msduo to play all my music would cost many times the price of the nano!, would be a complete nightmare even trying to use it.
I will be getting my nano 4GB next week, it's less than half the size of the K750i so I will hardly know it's there, even with the previous ipod I just stuck one in each pocket.
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Posted: 2005-09-11 20:54:56
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On 2005-09-11 18:33:47, masseur wrote:
I've never tried it myself but I do have a friend who is a real music aficionado who says he can tell the difference but I wonder if others feel the same?
I also notice the difference in the way the sound is handled by the phone and the ipod. Now the only way to explain this would be via Signal Noise Ratio..Apple doesnt advertise that but here is an example AM radio is about 30% SNR and FM about 50% other mp3 players eg: Iaudio has a 97%SNR(Damn good mp3 player) Usually having at least a 95 ratio is excellent.
I am not sure about the likes of the W800 SNR but I can tell you that the circuitry is not going to be made to the highest standard of achieving high SNR..for the cost factor of things.
Like yourself Masseur I am all for all-in-one, but they still do come with there limitations and until that day I personally will be using seprates.
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Posted: 2005-09-11 22:19:48
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The Nano....without question!
I've got k750i and i've just sold my ipod mini.....to buy a nano!
Even just owning the nano would make me happy....and thats before i play any songs on it.
@ Massuer, i hear what your saying, but i have to agree that if a memory stick and a nano were on a table and i could choose either....well what do you think?
The only question is White or Black?????
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Posted: 2005-09-11 23:30:30
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Sound quality is dependant on the format and compression used. Out of the 2, a ms duo for me. Holds anything.
This message was posted from a S700
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Posted: 2005-09-11 23:58:19
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On 2005-09-11 23:58:19, batesie wrote:
Sound quality is dependant on the format and compression used. Out of the 2, a ms duo for me. Holds anything.
This message was posted from a S700
Yeah but if you compare the same mp3 track in both players you will seriously notice a big difference. I have seriously moved more to HD players for the convenience factor.
I wouldnt buy the NANO because I think its kinda overpriced at 4Gb its not far off in price from the 20Gb.
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Posted: 2005-09-12 00:20:15
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