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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

This might be best continued in this thread. The topic may attract more discussion there.
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Posted: 2005-10-22 03:07:24
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BlueQuill Posts: 419

Isnt fate all about some unknown force guiding you towards a predestined destination.. This message was posted from a Nokia
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Posted: 2005-10-22 03:12:57
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@BlueQuill

Or yourself.

The Tao Te Ching has this to say on fate:

Quote:Who is brave and bold will perish;
Who is brave and subtle will benefit.
The subtle profit where the bold perish
For Fate does not honour daring.
And even the sage dares not tempt fate.

Fate does not attack, yet all things are conquered by it;
It does not ask, yet all things answer to it;
It does not call, yet all things meet it;
It does not plan, yet all things are determined by it.

Fate's net is vast and its mesh is coarse,
Yet none escape it.

I shall leave that for each of you to read and interpret.

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"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC

[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2005-10-22 02:25 ]
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Posted: 2005-10-22 03:22:13
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Bambino Posts: > 500

hmmm.. i think fate or destiny is changeable!
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Posted: 2005-10-22 03:24:00
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BlueQuill Posts: 419

@scotsboyuk

what about astrology then?
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Posted: 2005-10-22 03:30:00
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

@BlueQuill

What about it?
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Posted: 2005-10-22 03:33:57
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BlueQuill Posts: 419

About the belief/fact that you can predict things that about the future with astrology.
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Posted: 2005-10-22 03:42:00
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EastCoastStar Posts: > 500

Quote:
On 2005-10-22 01:18:24, kk.226 wrote:
Not the kind of thing you want to talk about with a hurricane on the way...



exactly why i said i wasnt gonna get into it hahaha
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Posted: 2005-10-22 03:53:05
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

astrology just maps the energies that are raining down on us, it is not predestiny and it doesn't "predict" events or outcomes. Think about it this way...the sun comes up every day, you cannot stop it. The sun warms, heats, burns, sooths and all these sorts of affects. It can also change the way you feel - it can make you lazy, it can energise, it can give you heat stroke and make you feel grumpy.

But would you say that just because you are affected by the sun, that you have no control over what you do during the day? No of course not. The sun brings certain affects that we can use to make our day easier, or we can dislike those affects and it makes our day harder, but it doesn't determine the outcome of our day. What we do with the energies that rain down on us is up to our human free choice. If you get heat stroke and it makes you grumpy, is it the sun's fault that you punched someone who pissed you off because you where grumpy? The astrological influences are no different to the sun on your face or the wind in your hair. They are just natural forces swirtling around you. It is up to the human to make use of those forces in the way that they suits them best. This is called "wisdom".

Like Sarah Conner scratches in the table in Judgement Day, "no fate". We make our own future by the actions we take using free choice.

That's my thought anyway..
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Posted: 2005-10-22 04:02:09
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

Who is to say that the actions you are taking are of your own free will? Perhaps whatever you do if fate no matter how much you may think that you have free will?

My own view is that each of us has a destiny, which we will fulfill. Free will comes into play in reaching that destiny. We can choose many different paths to reach our destiny, but reach it we will.

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"I may be drunk my dear woman, but in the morning I will be sober, and you will still be ugly." WSC

[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2005-10-22 06:35 ]
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Posted: 2005-10-22 07:35:27
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