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I agree with pinolo77 when he says they projected this phone to be the first in the UMTS house, no matter its real quality. But sorry for Faca and his unbiased views about Nokia products (
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A 54 seconds download @128kbs is enough to fill the memory...
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Posted: 2002-09-26 21:09:00
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wap 1.2.1 ........ WTF?!? even the 3650 has wap 2.0.... i like the question in their faq tho... "Does the 6650 have realplayer?
No it does not"
Hey... weren't 3g supposed to be all streaming video joy?
this phone is purely cosmetical to nokia... it looks like shit... the specs are shit (compared to 3650 & p800 and considering its 3G) but it'll sure as hell get some attention...
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Posted: 2002-09-26 21:23:00
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I think we have to admit that Nokia playied a very nasty move... But yet a very smart one
I'm totally with you on that one, man.
I don't doubt that this was a plan devised to poison the market. The question is if it works. Maybe it backfires and everyone thinks "nokia has really lost it, have you seen their _latest_ - uh!" .. Things like these are hard to know.
I think the reason this phone sucks (in terms of mass and volume and performance) is because, behind the curtains, Nokia really sucks. Today I reveal this long forgotten secret to you. Tell everyone you know.
Probably that is only a test phone they pulled from some old drawer to still everyone's desire for something new. Neither 7650 or 36-whatever have satisfied the public (because they, too, suck.)
8210 was a huge hit. 3310 as well. I know for sure 8210 wasn't designed by Nokia and tech-wise I hear from service-center-guys that it's a disaster. 3310 and its brother and sisters sell because they're cheap. Maybe the story is supposed end here?
Let's all hope.
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Posted: 2002-09-26 21:27:00
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I hope all your future phones will look very pretty so that you can impress a lot of people with them and be cool... Who cares what's inside or how it works anyway, right?
Sort of. I want a phone that fits nicely in my shirt pocket or bag, feels solid and has a look that I like. I have no use for Bluetooth, Ir, joystick count, ring signals that make my phone walk or anythink like that.
I also prefer clothes that look good rather than clothes from Fristads even though they are much more durable. I also prefer a nice analog metal wristwatch which barely shows the date instead of a huge plastic Casio with built-in camera and remote controll.
But we are all different, luckily.
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Posted: 2002-09-26 21:36:00
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new and complicated 3G/UMTS/WCDMA technology together with the old GSM one into such a small device so soon. It is a huge technological achievement and all that you people can say is that it looks large and ugly!?!
Well actually, do you know how small radio IC:s are? And that there are asian 3G-phones the size of T68?
The problem with making small phones is not that it's difficult in itself. What IS difficult is to make a small attractive device in huge volumes - it doesn't matter SO MUCH what kind of radio IC:s you attach to it (if you know how to make and control them.)
And when it comes to technology (standby/talktime/weight), this new phone is in no way impressive - if that was your point.
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Posted: 2002-09-26 21:38:00
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I think that the 6650 has two antennas because they has to be optimized for their networks, an external for 3G and an internal for GSM.
Another thing is that SE all ready has some 3G phones in japan.
This post was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2002-09-26 22:20:00
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@doowap: Do you know what video on demand is? You don't need a lot of memory to watch streaming video. Oh, and, you might want to try using the calculator next time you want to do some math. 128kpbs is approximately 16KB/s so you would need 448 seconds (or around 7.5 minutes) to fill 7 MB. But, like I said, 3G is about streaming video, not recorded video. And, FYI, I have never owned a Nokia phone. And, in my post I actually say that I will buy a Motorola phone. So, what makes you think that I am biased to Nokia? Because I don't worship SE and its P800?
@Epedemic: RealPlayer is not the only software that can play streaming video. And, yes, the 6650 can play streaming video, it was even demonstrated on its presentation. This phone is certainly not 'shit', but I'm really tired of explaining why.
@jb: Nokia may be a lot of things, but it certainly doesn't suck. They keep increasing their market share, e.g. in 2002., Q1 they had 35.4%, and in Q2 37.2% - for comparision, SE had 6.4% in Q1 and only 5.2% in Q2 (so their market share is dropping even though Sony and Ericsson joined forces). So, Nokia people certainly don't suck, they know very very well what they are doing. It's the SE people I'm not so sure about... And, btw, the 7650 is a much bigger success than you seem to think.
@Thullan: Are you comparing mobile phones with clothes!?! And with wristwatches?
@jb: Do you know how complicated WCDMA or GSM chips are? And show me one asian 3G phone the size of T68. And then tell me, is that the first 3G phone from that manufacturer? Does it support GSM too? Can it do transparent handovers between GSM and WCDMA networks? The impressive thing about this phone is that it is a dual-mode GSM/WCDMA phone, but I guess it's hard to explain how impressive this really is to people who compare such advanced wireless technologies with that of a wristwatch...
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Posted: 2002-09-26 22:50:00
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the biggest and best news for me was that nokia will relise 3 more phones with color screen before dec. and one of them will be a new comunicator! thatīs what nokia say, so itīs not a rumor!
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Posted: 2002-09-26 23:02:00
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I agree with Faca.
No matter how it looks or what it lacks in features, this phone has a cutting edge technology in the use of different networks.
It is NOT an easy task to make a phone which uses two different network technologies, and switches seamlessly between them.
As far as I know there are only two phones that can handle this, Motorola A820 and Nokia 6650, by "accident" the two biggest brands in cell phone market.
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Posted: 2002-09-26 23:04:00
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It's ok i guess..
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Posted: 2002-09-26 23:17:00
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