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On 2006-01-27 02:41:44, solidsingh wrote:
wait another 65 years or so - when i die ill come back on esato and post
By that time . . . . Esato HQ will be in Jupiter already . . .
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Posted: 2006-01-27 02:46:07
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On 2006-01-27 02:22:50, max_wedge wrote:
actually the world would more likely be less crowded if reincarnation was true - since if people die and come back straight away, how could there be a higher population on the planet than there was 200 years ago? Were do all those extra billions of people come from?
I don't understand these statements surely if people die and come back then more people will exist, because people still living can reproduce other people as well as the ones you refer to as coming back straight away or are they the only types of people being reproduced in which case life is just a cycle and no "new" people will ever exist and everyone has always been recycled.
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Posted: 2006-01-27 02:51:05
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new human bodies are created by physical reproduction, but not spiritual bodies (aka souls). A person's spirit is eternal. So if there was a billion people on the planet 100 years ago, what were the other 5 billion doing at the time (since there is now 6 billion on the planet)? Just sitting around in purgatory?
Or perhaps they were living in bodies on other worlds ie: "aliens". However I also believe on the other side (when we die - where our spirit lives) you can't count souls. There are an infinite number of spiritual beings, so no "new" spirits need to be created to fill the growing population on earth.
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Posted: 2006-01-27 02:59:49
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Things sounding impossible (and stupid) today might be common in the future. Its like flying. Imagine telling a guy in the beginnin of the century that he could reach london to Ny in 5 odd hours and he'd have laughed at ya..
Remember the quote by lord Kelvin which he said in the late 1880s.....?
"Every thing that could be invented has already been invented"
Btw, being a Hindu, i believe in "karma" and hence reincarnation.
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Posted: 2006-01-27 03:12:00
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@max Ahhhh inifinite number of souls, I wasn't thinking in that light, thanks ok I think I understand your points now...intresting...your points carry the most comprehendable reasonings someone has expressed to me about reincarnation...i totally disregarded it before...my brain has been exercised a lot today!
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Posted: 2006-01-27 03:13:02
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@loyal, thanks! I've enjoyed the discussion too. I'm no expert, but I think about this sort of thing quite a lot
@whizz, what a thing to say "Every thing that could be invented has already been invented"
The sad part there are still people around like that. For example scientists who completely deny there could be any means by which astrology could work. This despite the fact that it does actually work, a fact that anyone who has seriously studied it can attest to, just as assuredly as we don't need "proof" to know that the sun makes us feel warm. The proof is in the fact that it does makes us warm, it's subjective proof, but no one argues about it. We all know the sun makes us warm. The influences from the other heavenly bodies aren't as obvious, but when you look at the meanings that planetry transits have, and then look at your own life, you always find that it correlates.
But yet I don't know of a single scientist who has studied this AND STILL DENIES the existance of astrological affects.
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Posted: 2006-01-27 03:26:27
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The subject explains a lot. Reincarnation is a random act of souls getting into different shells(bodies). Rain showers with lot of sources that in turn enter into all those eatable grains and fruits etc.. All on earth eat them and generate more lives. (The souls continue the cycle till they surrender to the Almighty. That is possible through human bodies only. Hence the completion of the cycle.) I didnt say anything.
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Posted: 2006-01-27 03:28:38
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Why do some people feel the need for reincarnation? What exactly does one mean when talking about a 'soul' ? Where does the 'knowledge' in a book go when it is destroyed/burned? Got the point?
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Posted: 2006-01-27 05:43:01
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the knowledge in the book always exists, whether the book does or not. Likewise, your spirit always exists, whether you have a body or not. Get it?
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Posted: 2006-01-27 08:17:25
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The question was: where does it go ? Your answer is irrelevant :-( read my previous post and try again ;-) otherwise sit down and let someone als try :-) Greetings from South Africa. Mario.
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Posted: 2006-01-27 09:04:26
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