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axxxr Posts: > 500

indeed yes..astronomy and many instruments of astronomy such as a telescope type device were invented by muslim scientists,although galileo took credit for it much later.

Mathematics and Algebra was a muslim invention aswell.
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Posted: 2006-03-13 02:18:03
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whizkidd Posts: > 500

Quote: Mathematics and algebra was a muslim invention as well That would be a grossly incorrect statement. I'd agree if you said muslims (the Arabs especially) played a vital role in bringing mathematical science to the current level. How could someone possibly "invent" mathematics? It was already 'there'! Arabs and various other cultures actually complemented each other and have helped foster some of the basic and most important aspects of modern mathematical science.
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Posted: 2006-03-13 03:13:00
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amnesia Posts: > 500

alright, if you want to be so technically correct.

the concept of Allegebra and the subject itself was created by the Arabs.
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Posted: 2006-03-13 03:16:49
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blu_6779 Posts: 193

ibn sina, father of modern medicine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Sina
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Posted: 2006-03-13 03:30:10
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Pradhika Posts: > 500

Inventors change the world. This message was posted from a J300
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Posted: 2006-03-13 03:53:12
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upper Posts: > 500

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On 2006-03-13 01:55:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
hmmm... what is haram?

Somethink forbidden in ISLAM.
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Posted: 2006-03-13 04:58:11
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Very nice post axxxr, and may i add as well that it was the Muslims that also invented the english numerals too, imagine where the west will be without numbers .

Please correct me if im wrong but i was told by a brother who is very knowledgeable about ISLAM that the Muslims invented many more things and the bycicle is just one of them, many things that we see today was already been talked about at that time, but the reason they didnt go ahead with there inventions because the Muslim leader at that time decided not to go ahead with the ideas because it may take them away from there religion. Which i though personaly is very true.
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Posted: 2006-03-13 05:25:09
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

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On 2006-03-13 03:16:49, amnesia wrote:
alright, if you want to be so technically correct.

the concept of Allegebra and the subject itself was created by the Arabs.



That is incorrect. Algebraic methods were employed in ancient Egypt and Babylon as well as being used in 1st century B.C. China and India. The word 'algebra' is a derivation of methods used in the 9th century treatise 'Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah', who's author, Al-Khwarizmi, is regarded as the father of modern algebra. As whizkidd pointed out, algebra (and indeed mathematics as a whole) has been developed by various different people(s) throughout history.

More information on algebra can be found in this Wiki article.

Quote:indeed yes..astronomy and many instruments of astronomy such as a telescope type device were invented by muslim scientists,although galileo took credit for it much later.


Astronomy was not invented by Muslim scientists. The ancient Greeks had an understanding of astronomy, for example, defining the magnitude system. The Rigveda, which dates from the Bronze Age, mentions 27 constellations related to the motion of the sun as well as listing the twelve zodiac signs used to divide the sky. Hence one can see that the ancient Indians also had an understanding of, and used, astronomy. Important contributions to observational astronomy were made in the 9th and 10th centuries by Persian astronomers e.g. calculating the obliquity of the ecliptic.

On the subject of the telescope; Galileo did not invent it, but he did make improvements to it. Magnifying devices were known to Arabs and arguably the Vikings in the 10th century. There is also evidence to suggest that lenses were used by the Assyrians.

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Mathematics and Algebra was a muslim invention aswell.

Hardly since both existed before Islam. For instance, the concept of zero was developed by the Mayans or possibly the Olmecs independently of Europe and at least approximately three centuries before the founding of Islam. Mathematics was employed by several pre-Islamic civilisations including the ancient Egyptians, ancient Greeks, ancient Chinese and pre-Columbian American civilisations.

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Posted: 2006-03-13 05:25:29
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axxxr Posts: > 500

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On 2006-03-13 05:25:29, scotsboyuk wrote:
That is incorrect. Algebraic methods were employed in ancient Egypt and Babylon as well as being used in 1st century B.C. China and India. The word 'algebra' is a derivation of methods used in the 9th century treatise 'Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah', who's author, Al-Khwarizmi, is regarded as the father of modern algebra. As whizkidd pointed out, algebra (and indeed mathematics as a whole) has been developed by various different people(s) throughout history.

More information on algebra can be found in this Wiki article.


scotsboyuk nitpicking again,actually your incorrect ,the father of Algebra was and is Al-Khwarizmi He composed the oldest works on arithmetic and algebra. They were the principal source of mathematical knowledge for centuries to come in the East and the West. The word algebra is actually derived from the title of one of his books 'Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah'. Algebra was indeed further developed by throughout history much later but the foundations were laid by Al-Khwarizmi.


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On 2006-03-13 05:25:29, scotsboyuk wrote:
Astronomy was not invented by Muslim scientists. The ancient Greeks had an understanding of astronomy, for example, defining the magnitude system. The Rigveda, which dates from the Bronze Age, mentions 27 constellations related to the motion of the sun as well as listing the twelve zodiac signs used to divide the sky. Hence one can see that the ancient Indians also had an understanding of, and used, astronomy. Important contributions to observational astronomy were made in the 9th and 10th centuries by Persian astronomers e.g. calculating the obliquity of the ecliptic.


Yes of course other civilisation did have some understanding of Astronomy by it was the muslim scientists who really understood it better than anyone else and made amazing advancements. Did you know that historians of astronomy often refer to the time from the 8th through the 14th centuries as the Islamic period? As that was when most study of the stars took place in the Muslim world.


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On 2006-03-13 05:25:29, scotsboyuk wrote:
On the subject of the telescope; Galileo did not invent it, but he did make improvements to it. Magnifying devices were known to Arabs and arguably the Vikings in the 10th century. There is also evidence to suggest that lenses were used by the Assyrians.


Yes what i said that galileo is always associated with the telescope,all he did was take work others had done and make improvements to it.Even the worlds first plantarium was invented by muslim scientist
headshift.com/muslimheritage/index.cfm?fuseaction=main.viewBlogEntry&intMTEntryID=2734]Ibn Firnas[/url] [/i]It was made out of glass showing the sky at it was then,very much resembling today lanetariums, adding to it artificial thunder noise and lightening. Ibn Firnas, who lived in the 9th century, eventually died after attempting to demonstrate human flight, but crashed and was critically injured.[/i]


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On 2006-03-13 05:25:29, scotsboyuk wrote:
Hardly since both existed before Islam. For instance, the concept of zero was developed by the Mayans or possibly the Olmecs independently of Europe and at least approximately three centuries before the founding of Islam. Mathematics was employed by several pre-Islamic civilisations including the ancient Egyptians, ancient Greeks, ancient Chinese and pre-Columbian American civilisations.



Actually your wrong yet again,the concept of ZERO was invented by Al'Khwarizm Al'Khwarizmi wrote on Hindu-Arabic numerals and was the first to use zero as a place holder in positional base notation. The word algorithm derives from his name.

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Posted: 2006-03-13 13:00:58
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well all science and maths can be found in the Quran... next thing u know top researchers are using the Quran for guidence..
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Posted: 2006-03-13 13:25:23
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