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I agree with - Chili here ! When I got my K750i last year, I was very excited as it's my 1st 2.0 MP camfone . . . of course it's just an upgrade of the K700i as we all know it . . . prior to buying, check the 'specs' first . . . and the price too if it's just worth buying the 'toy' !
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Posted: 2006-04-08 23:08:42
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@jago
I know what you mean.
While I don't believe manufacturers deliberately design in faults such as fragile joysticks to get you to upgrade sooner, thier attitudes and those of the networks do need to be questioned from time to time.
I tried to start a discussion on this sometime ago with a
If cars were like phones thread, but noone got the point I was trying to make.
Would we tolerate these sort of issues if the product was a car or TV or some other consumer item? Take a step back and we see how much nonsence we put up with from these companies.
@shockk
You've obviously never read anything by
Ralph Nader then.
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Posted: 2006-04-09 00:48:05
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i think the thread starter just wanted to open a flame thread.. he's not even repying... so to the MODS... can you close this stupid thread. and let's look for Jago's next thread.
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Posted: 2006-04-09 05:41:36
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Mmmm, sorry, I won't be taking your advice.
I still plan to get me a brand new W810i in a couple of weeks.
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Posted: 2006-04-09 06:32:34
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On 2006-04-09 00:48:05, carkitter wrote:
Would we tolerate these sort of issues if the product was a car or TV or some other consumer item? Take a step back and we see how much nonsence we put up with from these companies.
Why not? We accept crap from computer, software, digital music player and even music selling companies, to name one area. Cars have more computer in them these days, and I can point right at a handful of people from where I'm sitting that have a slightly disfunctional 'board computer' if you like. Nothing major, but just being unable to pop the hood or stuff like that..... still it's a glitch, it shouldn't be there. Still, no reason not to keep the car apparently
People put up with more crap and less 'everlasting' products because we've all been brainstormed that anything high tech is 'outdated' in 2 months time anyway... therefore we don't seem to expect it to live much longer than that. Especially fragile pieces like cellphones, which get handled a lot and usually in a rough manner.
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Posted: 2006-04-09 14:20:49
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Hello all!
Sorry late reply, I was living it up all weekend
The main thing is the idea that phones are one of those things that don't quite seem to be right. It seems like something that for some reason seems to be an icon of materialism. Other example is definately the car. It's something that is as irrational as it is rational. People don't use thier phones, they _love_ them.
3 sides of a person; id (logic), ego (emotion), and theta (society).
A phone, like a car is as much about emotions and society values as it is about logic.
For someone like me, who's favorite thing is logic over theta and ego the mobile phone is a representation of all that's bad with society; letting emotions tell you what to do and impressing your friends?
So I wanted to say, don't buy it. Yes, choose life.
But I guess you'll only agree with me if you perfer logic to emotion and socialness. Some people are getting buried with thier mobiles. Is that an indication of something that can levered for profit?
Vlammetje: yes I know the car computer problem; deliberate encryption of the system to lock out 3rd parties such as other garages, to put a levy on the price of repair. I also heard BMW's are the worst. Some information is standardised so crash investigators can get to it but that's only basic info. I'm sure this is why all the mechanics I know drive Vauxhall Cavaliers! The OFT is surely just a toothless token appeasement in matters like this across the board.
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Posted: 2006-04-09 22:05:28
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they do sometimes get on your nerves, and perhaps companies to put minor bugs or make something less good/powerful as it should be so you upgrade to the next. but to be honest, i enjoy spending loads of money i havn't got on cool uber products.
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Posted: 2006-04-09 22:48:33
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If these companies don't keep these kinky bugs in phones, how else do they convince you to buy the next model probably coming out next month or perhaps week. If you dont like their marketing trick, buy one that meets your needs and forget bout fones till something really impressive is released.
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Posted: 2006-04-10 12:12:20
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On 2006-04-10 12:12:20, bennie wrote:
buy one that meets your needs and forget bout fones till something really impressive is released.
exactly what i did almost 2 years ago after getting tired of having to keep up with the flux of new phones every month or so.
and then the w800 comes and sweeps me off my feet. lol.
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Posted: 2006-04-10 12:15:07
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Networks dont make much profit from hardware anyway, they make it from downloads such as ringtones, screensavers, subscriptions to pointless things like News and Sport info and unnecessary things like Video Calling.
Therefore I've disabled 3G on my V800 and use my mediaplayer instead.
I wont waste my money on irrelevant network services.
We all know that the pace of change in the computer industry is designed to rip us off. But the even more rediculous pace of change (for change's sake) in the mobile industry makes buying a new phone a potential minefield. I think some of Jago's original comments about standardised connectors and modular upgradable cameras, etc, are good.
It'll never happen though.
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Posted: 2006-04-10 13:35:41
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