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@goldenface
Well said! Being a nuclear armed state is not just about becoming powerful, it is also about being accepted as such by the existing powers. Whilst China and Russia are not in favour of sanctions or military action against Iran I doubt if either wants Iran to have the capability to produce nuclear weapons.
You have to remember that one of the major goals for the major powers in the Middle East is stability to ensure the global economy is not disrupted through oil prices.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2006-05-04 15:16 ]
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Posted: 2006-05-04 16:15:55
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@scotsboyuk
Ahmadinejad might believe that posessing nuclear power is the way to go about gaining respect in the international community but his regular bouts of sabre-rattling against Israel is is hardly going to endear him to his neighbours.
A large portion of the Iranian population, and many others, would like to see him voted out of power, however the risk is betting on which will come first, that or Iran surprising us with nuclear missiles capable of hitting south eastern Europe.
I know which risk I wouldn't want to take.
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Posted: 2006-05-04 16:28:54
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who/what gives america the right to dictate terms on other nations???america is miles away from the middle east & it should keep away.even after over a year there aint no stability in iraq thanks to the moron called bush & his poodle on a leash blair.the iranian president has the b*lls & i hope he nukes the shit out of america & israel asap.
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Posted: 2006-05-04 16:29:04
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no one bans from esato this asshole after this???
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Posted: 2006-05-04 16:40:26
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On 2006-05-04 16:29:04, smartphn wrote:
who/what gives america the right to dictate terms on other nations???
They are the most powerful country in the world, that is what gives them the right. That is realpolitik. We might not like it, but that is generally how the world has always been run. The strongest nations are able to decide how the world is run.
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america is miles away from the middle east & it should keep away.even after over a year there aint no stability in iraq thanks to the moron called bush & his poodle on a leash blair.the iranian president has the b*lls & i hope he nukes the shit out of america & israel asap.
Yes let's criticise Bush and Blair for a war and then hope for an even worse war! Are you really as ignorant as your posts make you out to be?
The Iranian President knows full well that he has no chance for winning a war against America. Iran has no missiles that could reach America for one thing. Here is a likely scenario for an Iranian nuclear strike on Israel (presuming that Israel didn't strike first.) As Israel detects Iranian missiles heading towards Israel they would launch a strike of their own, which would likely be large enough to destroy all of Iran's major towns and cities as well as rendering a considerable part of Iran and the surrounding region uninhabitable for years to come.
An added consequence of an Iranian strike against Israel is that the West Bank and the Gaza strip would also be rendered uninhabitable and there would likely be a number of Palestinians killed in the strike too. So at a stroke Iran would have deprived the Palestinians of their homeland as well as depriving themselves of their own homeland.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2006-05-04 15:47 ]
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Posted: 2006-05-04 16:43:34
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On 2006-05-04 16:29:04, smartphn wrote:
who/what gives america the right to dictate terms on other nations???america is miles away from the middle east & it should keep away.even after over a year there aint no stability in iraq
Of course there was stability in Iraq under Saddam. He must have been a great one to live next door to
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2006-05-04 16:10 ]
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Posted: 2006-05-04 16:45:05
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On 2006-05-04 16:29:04, smartphn wrote:
who/what gives america the right to dictate terms on other nations???america is miles away from the middle east & it should keep away.even after over a year there aint no stability in iraq thanks to the moron called bush & his poodle on a leash blair.the iranian president has the b*lls & i hope he nukes the shit out of america & israel asap.
Well said my friend although i don't agree with the nuking america and israel part...that would make Iran as bad as the americans,violence is never the answer,it only fuels further problems as we see in Iraq and Afghanistan...I think even america will think again and again before decideing to make any kind of attack on Iran as the Iranians are a brave people and they support their leader,Ahmadinejad is no saddam hussain and Bush/blair knows it...
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Posted: 2006-05-04 16:47:20
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@axxxr
It amazes me that you can criticise Bush and Blair on the one hand and not someone like the Iranian president who openly calls for the destruction of another country. You are right that violence is to be avoided, but I don't pick and choose where that violence comes from.
The current Iranian government is as much a threat to Iran as America is. If you have an Iranian government openly calling for the destruction of one of America's allies you can expect America to oppose that government. It really is as simple as that.
America will go to war with Iran if Iran gives them an excuse to go to war. If I was the President of Iran I would be concentrating on improving the lot of the Iranian people rather than sabre rattling with a country that I knew Iran had no chance of defeating in an armed conflict.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2006-05-04 16:00 ]
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Posted: 2006-05-04 16:58:32
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