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The K800 arrives in a month or so, the W850 will be out at the end of Q3 (September), which I know is odd but that's marketing for you!
I think SE were already showing signs of leading the way with the T68 in 2001 and the T68i in 2002. The P800 was also pretty groundbreaking, even if the look of it was a bit toy-town.
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Posted: 2006-05-19 19:34:22
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I really don't care if they're not Number 1 as long as they make the best phones.
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making the best phones = #1 in my book.
Anyways rather be the one to have the unique cool phone, then the same boring Nokia
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Posted: 2006-05-19 20:24:39
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but it's sad that SE's following the Nokia route by segregating phone features.
*sniffling*
(still lamenting over the lack of AF on the W850... yeah, yeah: "why don't you get a K800 instead? ... well why did they put AF on the first walkman phones if they're gonna take it away in the end anyway? whatever happened to convergence?)
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Posted: 2006-05-19 20:30:35
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No its Nokia's year.
I dont know how far SE expects to go with variations of the K750.
K750,W800,W810 and now some slider with pretty much the same specs as well.
The Nokia N91 and N93 triump over the K800 in my opinion.
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Posted: 2006-05-19 21:57:39
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nope. more phones doesn't mean much.
SE is still quite poor when it comes to logistics.
meeting special consumer demands
and lanching phones in time and on time
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Posted: 2006-05-19 22:19:43
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The N91 and N93? Have you SEEN either of these phones?
We had a N91 in June 2005, and it was on the front page of our July 2005 issue! Even then, we commented on it being rather bulky, with a fiddly keypad and feeling cheap.
A year on, we've got the final version, and it takes nearly 2 seconds to start playing a track. Hard drives are NOT the solution for small storage, like 4GB, hence Apple going for flash memory on the nano.
Now the N93 was shown to us in Berlin and that IS an impressive phone for its featureset, but it's bigger than the N90! There's no Xenon flash and the processor is too slow, so every button press results in long delays as you see the screen drawing itself. Oh, and the little joystick is incredibly fiddly in camera mode.
Don't get me wrong, Nokia are making excellent phones - but they're also churning out dross too. The N73 I've now got for the weekend is great, apart from a joystick that keeps selecting everything as I love up and down. It's enough to make the damn thing almost unusable.
Why are Nokia always making a mess of the Nseries devices? Each one seems to get a little bit bigger!! We had a N92 when Nokia entered the Mobile News Awards, and this is great for a TV - but they're forgotten that it's also a mobile phone! I am not sure a camcorder shaped phone, or a pocket-TV shaped phone is the answer to convergence!
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Posted: 2006-05-19 23:30:24
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At least SE is making quality mass products
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Posted: 2006-05-20 03:34:26
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Minimum of 5 years before they (:se:) see themselves on the helm . . .
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Posted: 2006-05-20 04:22:54
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SE are trying to expand, and they're doing so. Sales are rocketing and they're making money.
However, I doubt they're trying to catch up with Nokia. To do so would be very hard and risky. It's not just about making millions of phones to match Nokia's line-up but also getting the distribution support. Nokia has established the relationships with the networks, the distributors and the dealers. You can't just walk in and say "Hey, this is better than that - sell this".
Nokia could fight back by undercutting them, and SE would be punished. Remember, Nokia don't sell direct to you (well, maybe a few via their web shop!) but to the trade - and they're after making money. Nokia phones make them money. It takes time to gain their trust, but that seems to be happening.
For now, they're going after the markets where Nokia aren't strong. They've done an amazing job with the K750 and the W800. In fact, with the Motorola RAZR and the K750, I wonder how Nokia actually did in the mid range? Will Nokia end up being the network for making entry level phones and high-end Nseries phones that are technically wonderful, but often too big to be taken seriously by the mainstream?
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Posted: 2006-05-20 13:18:40
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I'd say there are too many "coming soon" phones at the moment, and not enough realities we can really buy. I'm waiting for a P990 for 6 months! I would not mind a W950 or a M600, but they are not available either.
In essence, perhaps they should concentrate more in pipelining their products to the market, rather than presenting them a year before they are actually born. Can't see the sense in that.
W950 stops me from buying a W810... and so on.
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Posted: 2006-05-20 14:13:32
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