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I wouldn't go back to a cam without it personally. You get clearer pictures, can use the half-press to focus (so you can have out of focus in the centre of the frame when you need, not possible with fixed focus), you can avoid it when you want, enables the macro mode to work over a wide range rather than a fixed focal distance etc.
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Posted: 2006-07-17 16:22:39
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The K750/W800 offers very good quality pictures for a mobile phone - without doubt the best in it's class. They are great because they allow you to take acceptable quality photo's when you don't have a real camera on hand. But they don't offer anywhere near the quality of digi cam. From my experience the W800 is too grainy in poor light and has always suffered from vertical grid lines/hashing in the dark areas of almost all photos. Zoom in on any photo taken with a k750/w800 and you'll quickly realise they really aren't up to the quality of a dedicated digi cam. With that said - I have been able to get some very good photo's from my W800 - almost always in well lit conditions. But I have probably taken a lot more poor quality photos. The bottom line is: a real digi cam will always offer far better picture quality for 2 fundamental reasons: 1) a larger lens; and 2) optical zoom! Lets face it - it just is not practical to place a large lens and decent optical zoom on a mobile phone. Anyone who thinks a mobile phone can replace a dedicated digi cam is kidding themselves or just plain ignorant.
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Posted: 2006-07-17 16:23:38
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Well we are talking comparative digital cameras here - no one is comparing K750 against a camera with optical zoom or massive megapixels.
Many low to mid range 2MP cameras have much poorer white balance than K750, no auto-focus, more pixelation (resolution isn't everything), a flash weaker than the K750 light, tiny washed out displays, shitty ergonomics, no lense cover....
The K750 is actually a digital camera morphed with a phone (unlike the K700 and earlier which just had camera modules tacked on in effect). The K750 is not a phone with a camera add-on. It is both of these things equally.
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Posted: 2006-07-17 16:36:53
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A close range shot using a K750. Macro and the LED light only...
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5953/rocky1uv1.jpg
Overall I think thats a great photo considering I'm used a K750 in a pitch black room, the only light was obviously coming from the LED.
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[ This Message was edited by: Xugaa on 2006-07-17 16:01 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-17 16:49:09
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Good detail there
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Posted: 2006-07-17 16:51:15
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exactly my pt max_wedge.........thats wat i m looking for...comparison with a 2mp bottom line model.....not the fancy ones......those ll b better obviously......by the way, as to the flash...seems SE india has begun offering the flash accessory with the k750i as standard......so pretty sweet deal actually.....wont have to use the in built lite.....will just keep the flash along....
it was almost a foregone conclusion nz ;-D.......the k750 i it ll have to be......now all that remains is for me to get my hands on the cash i need......little short rite now.......by the end of the month most prob....cant wait.....
any more suggestions, views etc welcome of course
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Posted: 2006-07-17 16:54:24
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Seems like many people forget following pros of digicam: their larger size ang greater weight give better grip for steady hold, too small and too light is OK as mobile phone but poor as camera.
Further, a digicam with optical viewfinder helps when the light enters the LCD display from wrong angle making it impossible to see what you have frame, just ramdom aiming. Eventhought the optical viewfinder only shows arounf 80-85% of what the sensor actually captures, its better IMHO, as one can always recompose the subject in those cases.
Optical viewfiner also acts as aid as one can press the camer agains forehead giving then better support for shakefree shooting. I'd love to see how peole hold their LCD display only camera mobiles/digicams in low light situations: do they lean agains backwall, do they at least press their elbows agains their upper body to get steady posture?
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Posted: 2006-07-17 17:04:32
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On 2006-07-17 16:49:09, Xugaa wrote:
A close range shot using a K750. Macro and the LED light only...
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5953/rocky1uv1.jpg
Overall I think thats a great photo considering I'm used a K750 in a pitch black room, the only light was obviously coming from the LED.
hi, i wnted to know if you did something to your k750 cam because i recently took a picture with my w800 and it dos not look as good as in your k750
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[ This Message was edited by: Xugaa on 2006-07-17 16:01 ]
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Posted: 2006-07-17 20:08:17
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I haven't done anything no, and that wasn't even with the latest firmware when I took that, probably would look even better now.
K750 + Dark Room + Rocky + Macro + LED =
http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5953/rocky1uv1.jpg
Thats all there is to it, remember that it was at very close range as you can see, so light from the LED "flash" (when it gets even brighter when you take the photo) would have reflected off of Rocky making the picture seem brighter. At distance it would not have been so good, though I dunno about the W800 but the K750's LED is very very good and bright in my opinion, I have no problem with taking dark shots, suffers a bit though if the object you are taking a picture of is further away.
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Posted: 2006-07-17 20:46:10
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I'm a bit lost. I can see the argument that a really cheap digicam may be comparable. But really, kids are the only ones who buy the really low end camera's. Lets seriously look at pricing - you can actually buy quite a decent digi cam (4-5mp) for approx $300 (aust price). At the same time the W800 was selling for approx $700 – take the camera away and the price would be far less. I have to disagree that the w800/k750 camera offers anywhere near the quality of any current cheapish 3/4/5mp even when they are toned down to 2mp. The picture provided by xugaa serves 2 very good points. 1) It shows that the k750/w800 can take good macro shots. 2) It shows the limits of the camera - have a good look at the photo at full resolution. Pay particularly attention to the top left corner. See all that hashing? Pretty bad isn’t it? If you look at just about any photo taken by a k750/w800 you'll find it. It's almost always there in the darker areas of a photo and particularly in poor light. Once you are aware of it is very distracting. Not one update of the camera driver has been able to get rid of this. This is when you are reminded that this is only a phone with a basic camera module (that is all it is - a small 2mp camera module attached to a phone). You will not see such image errors in a dedicated camera and would not choose to use a phone to replace a real camera. But, as a whole package the k750/w800 offers a lot and it very handy as you always have it with you.
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Posted: 2006-07-18 01:51:34
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