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axxxr Posts: > 500

yeh sure but i'd say even 90% of the U.K population support our Queen, but monarchy is a outdated concept and should be abolished...just isn't right in the 21st century...she's the Queen at the taxpayers expense,i.e my money.

Us the hard working public are paying for her Castles and her lavish lifestyle....that money could be better spent on Hospitals,the Homeless and the other needy charities.



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Posted: 2006-10-01 09:10:53
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Burgaz Posts: > 500

This really gets my goat!

In some countries (the maldives for example) your not even allowed to take a bible into the country, because it's a 100% muslim country. You can even have your bag searched at the airport for any bibles or crucifix (no joke). So why do we except other religion here?

The world needs some balance!

Or simply no religion at all!
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Posted: 2006-10-01 09:24:18
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

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On 2006-10-01 09:10:53, axxxr wrote:
yeh sure but i'd say even 90% of the U.K population support our Queen, but monarchy is a outdated concept and should be abolished...


What is defined as 'outdated'? Democracy was first recorded in ancient Greece and I don't consider that to be outdated.

The monarchy is a link to our past. I don't see any need to fix something that isn't broken.

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just isn't right in the 21st century...she's the Queen at the taxpayers expense,i.e my money.

The Civil List is given in exchange for revenues from the Crown Estates. The Civil List amounts to £7.9 million each year, of which 70% pays the wages of the staff working for the Queen, not the Royal Family. The Crown Estate is estimated to be worth around £5 billion and to generate around £184 million in profit for the government each year. In the period 2003-2004 the monarch received less than £40 million in funding from parliament, whereas the profits from the Crown Estate amounted to over £170 million. I would say that is a pretty good deal for the taxpayer.

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Us the hard working public are paying for her Castles and her lavish lifestyle....that money could be better spent on Hospitals,the Homeless and the other needy charities.


No we're not. The Crown Estate profits, as I have already mentioned, far exceed the money the Queen receives from parliament in return for the Crown Estates. I also pointed out that almost three quarters of the Civil List does not go to the Royal Family, but rather pays the wages of those working in the Royal Household.

The Queen receives approximately £35-£40 million from parliament each year. What exactly would do that do for the NHS or starvation in Africa or AIDS epidemics or the homeless situation? Not a huge amount is the answer. To be frank £40 million is not a lot of money when it comes to tackling big problems. It may very well allow one to feed some people right away or it might allow one to hire some more nurses and doctors, but it would do relatively little in the grand scheme of things. To really tackle the major problems in this country (and the world) billions of pounds (if not tens of billions) needs to be allocated.

I would far rather we spent money on a monarchy, which gives a great deal to this country than things like the Millenium Dome, which cost the better part of £1 billion. Now that is a real sum of money that really could do a lot of good!

On a personal note, the Queen is said to not to like wasting money(does anyone remember the tuppaware boxes shown in one of the newspapers?).
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Posted: 2006-10-01 09:57:42
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amnesia Posts: > 500

Indeed the Monarchy is a symbol.


@Burgaz, it's a good thing that ONE country's actions doesn't represent every other country in the world

I've never even heard of a country not allowing a Bible.
(it's probably the only country in the world)

I will not believe it though until I see an official source. (not saying I don't believe you, but alot of false information seems to spread on line and people enjoy such false information)


I was looking at

http://www.odusa.org/Display.asp?Page=WWL2006_Top10

What's written there is utter BullS**t. There are churches and MANY people with different faiths in Saudi Arabia.

They said "Most of the arrested Christians were eventually released."
LIES, ALL LIES.

So sadly alot of websites seem to love to spread lies.



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Posted: 2006-10-01 14:20:13
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PeterKay Posts: > 500

well done queen, i salute you mam.

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Posted: 2006-10-01 15:43:00
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soulframe Posts: 225

Anyone think this might be a publicity stunt, to you know, try to appease the muslims who have been upsetted by recent events? It's just a thought really, I mean it could be true but then again look at the timing of this announcement.
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Posted: 2006-10-01 23:48:26
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axxxr Posts: > 500

I didn't think of it like that....but now that you mention it,i'm having my doubts!
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Posted: 2006-10-02 02:08:11
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*Jojo* Posts: > 500

I quite agree with Axxxr, that monarchy MUSTbe abolished ! Just look what just happened in Thailand where their Prime Minister was OUSTED when he was to attend the UN Assembly some weeks ago . . . the King, connived with the military . . . now they've just placed an interim Prime Minister - a retired general at that !
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Posted: 2006-10-02 02:16:58
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whizkidd Posts: > 500

I don't think monarchy or even dictatorship should be done away with IF THEY ARE BENEFICIAL TO PEOPLE... But i guess...this happens very rarely....
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Posted: 2006-10-02 02:23:00
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axxxr Posts: > 500

either way i think it should be left for the people to decide if they want them in power.

We should have elections on the monarchy aswell...keep em or trash em....i say off with dere eads!
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Posted: 2006-10-02 02:30:53
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