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@apolloa - Nope, Marc won't leave . . .
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I liked the Communicator too dude . . . had each model twice or thrice in my possession since then (9210/9210i/9500) . .. not the 9300 and 9300i . . still.
The N95 will never FAIL . . . it might not reach Nokia's expectations . . . but surely will be competitive enough with it's closest - rivals !
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Posted: 2006-11-19 05:18:51
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Oh good, if you don't leave then it's a good source of info we can rely on and another gadget freak!!
I will say that these phones are begining to get ahead of themselves with all the features and the available battery power, especially WiFi. What we really need are these fuel cells we've been promised for God knows how long!! Help to save the enviroment too.
I've heard the new communicators will have huge touch screens? It's about time they were updated because of the features on WM phones and the P990I.
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Posted: 2006-11-19 05:38:33
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@apolloa - Yup, Dogmann knows something about gadgets . . . and everytime he makes his posts . . . he just reminds me of one of the BEST MODs we have around - honest!
I wonder what Nokia model will succeed the N95
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Posted: 2006-11-19 05:44:06
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@dogmann
Look, I sure hope I didn't make you leave for my 'ignorance'
And if I did, I didn't mean to, nor do I think I was displaying any ignorance. I was just answering the thread title, and yes, I don't think that the N95 will succeed as well as some people may think. I hold nothing against Nokias either.
It is just, I believe that I would represent a somewhat 'regular' consumer in the mobile market. I am part of the majority of users who don't currently need or use smartphones. That includes S60, UIQ etc. I have no use for the extras and thats why I go to SE for their reliability when providing good overall non-smartphones.
So maybe I have a different perspective on what success is to some people. Yes, the N95 will be a successful smartphone, but I don't think that it would be a successful mobile for the overall market, and that's maybe where my SE 'bias' may come from. I hope it wasn't classified as ignorance.
I think that Nokia was the king of innovation this year technology wise, but SE did increasingly well in raising their market share and average market price, and Nokia managed to decrease their market share, meaning that all their advancement in technology wasn't accepted as well as they'd thought by the market.
So this is where I think that the N95 would not be the success story that Nokia predicts that it will be. I don't think the market is ready for a phone with an almost 'bloat' of features, and this is where SE will succeed by offering (what I think) will be a non-smartphone Sofia with a 5 megapixel camera for presumably less.
But anyway, I hope that you decide not to leave entirely, and you continue to give your unbiased opinion to our somewhat SE skewed threads
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Posted: 2006-11-19 05:45:13
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shaliron:
Quote:I think that Nokia was the king of innovation this year technology wise, but SE did increasingly well in raising their market share and average market price, and Nokia managed to decrease their market share, meaning that all their advancement in technology wasn't accepted as well as they'd thought by the market.
This is nonsense. N-series which are Nokia high-end high-tech smartphones sales has increase 50% quarter on quarter for the last few quarters. This is much larger than the general market trend or even SE market trend. SE on the other hand has done miserably in this aspect as Nokia high-tech (S60) phone volume is something like 20 times of SE. This ratio is much larger than overall phone volume.
So it is more correct to say SE has regressed since the days of P800. Now SE is more interested to make low-tech phones to sell to the average Joe.
Quote:So this is where I think that the N95 would not be the success story that Nokia predicts that it will be. I don't think the market is ready for a phone with an almost 'bloat' of features, and this is where SE will succeed by offering (what I think) will be a non-smartphone Sofia with a 5 megapixel camera for presumably less.
Dont agree here. N95 will be a huge success in its targeted market segment just like its predecessor N80 was. It is a high end business/media phone and it will not sell in volume like K800 successor (whatever the model is). Nokia will soon announce N73 successor which will compete and put to shame (functionality wise) K800's successor like what the N73 did to K800.
In term of European sales, even N70 which is higher end and more expensive sold as well as the supposedly "highly successful" K750.
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/16738.php
So this trend would be quite likely to be repeated for N73 and K800 and future successors of these.
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Posted: 2006-11-19 06:40:28
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you can leave now!!
long words are not needed from you.!!
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Posted: 2006-11-19 09:19:13
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@Dogmann- your points are valid. I too thought the merger was good for Ericsson after the fire incident at the Phillips factory cost them the market share, but since then I hate what Sony has done to Ericsson. I wish the latter leaves the former but I doubt it will work for Ericsson NOW. I'm staying with SE now because of Ericsson but my patience is wearing thin. I doubt that I'd go to Nokia though, I just don't feel them, never did. I guess time will tell unless SE makes some dramatic improvement!
[ This Message was edited by: EMS06 on 2006-11-19 13:27 ]
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Posted: 2006-11-19 14:25:00
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@bluechips
If you can't post anything sensible don't post and sorry if big words are to difficult for you to understand you sad little septic tank.
Marc
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Posted: 2006-11-20 19:36:51
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I'm still not convinced. Its a loot on one phone and they have not yet proven that they can put it ALL together.
My wife just got an N73 - nice phone, I feel it is better to operate than my M600i except for my keyboard.....but even that one stutters are frizzes screen all the time.
And then they want to add GPS and WI-Fi to the mix? Its very ambitious. But I think they would have do an incredible job of balancing horsepower and battery consumption on this device. Its not a giime by any means.
Anyway I hope the N95 works - if it does I want to get one. But having gone through M600i and then seen folks experience with P990i - I dont think I will be an early buyer this time around.
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Posted: 2006-11-20 20:57:40
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I'm pretty sure N95 will be workable. Nokia's been at S60 for a long time. All recent S60 phones (maybe except N80) were stable on release. You should not compare with SE UIQ3 phones as UIQ3 is a newborn OS which will need some time to achieve the stability and peformance of s60.
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Posted: 2006-11-21 00:43:58
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