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Let me add a couple things. 2 other reasons for network lag is money and NIMBY. As far as money, there are HUGE areas in which to develop network, and it is not cheap to put up a network in the US. Most analog based carriers have limited digital: in rural areas, forget it. As a matter of fact, the FCC said that analog only towers can be turned off 5 years from last July. They will do it. And why spend huge amounts of cash when less then 10% of US consumers what wireless internet? And, according to the latest poll, 13% want sms? For NIMBY, means not in my backyard. US users want coverage, but then complain about seeing towers. As I told a city councilman, he cannot have it both ways (he voted against a tower inside his town).
As far as any elitist attitude, don't blame the consumers for the over-inflated advertising. Most of the US advertising is like that. Have y'all ever seen our rediculous car ads?
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Posted: 2002-11-06 15:17:00
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One must also consider the size of North America and it's scarce population compared to areas in Europe and Asia. Also, North America doesn't seem to be as fond as the little gadgets that the rest of the world appreciates so much. I know tons of people who still use phones from 2-3 years ago.... with no intention of changing it... it's just a different world.... in England I know lots of people who carry 2 phones one for text and the other to talk. I don't think there is 1 person in North America that deos that..
Just my thoughts,
dragoneye
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Posted: 2002-11-06 15:55:00
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@woutervg
I agree with you. It seems that the US of A want to be different from all other countries... They're against a European system for global navigation (just like GPS), they use GSM1900 instead of the GSM900/GSM1800 standards, have NTSC (eg Japan) as TV signal (in most continental countries we use PAL which is better), they use 110 Volts and we 220 Volts, they think making war is the only way to make people listen to them (BUSHHHHH).... Hehehehe... And there are so many arrogant Americans who actually think that the US rules the rest of the world (of course not all of them).
Cheers
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Posted: 2002-11-06 16:11:00
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[ This Message was edited by: Bjerkebanen on 2002-12-01 19:34 ]
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Posted: 2002-11-06 16:43:00
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I have not used GSM in NYC but in a lot of other cities in the US on the T-Mobile and Cingular network and I would say the coverage is pretty good. As someone said earlier - it is hard to cover such a large nation as the US.
Regarding packets> I found it odd too that my GPRS experiences have been better in the US even though providers support less packets compared to Europe. My explanation would be that Europe is more dense - more users per tower. The European networks often get crowded and that slows down connection speed.
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Posted: 2002-11-06 21:26:00
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On 2002-11-06 16:11, Owen wrote:
@woutervg
I agree with you. It seems that the US of A want to be different from all other countries... They're against a European system for global navigation (just like GPS), they use GSM1900 instead of the GSM900/GSM1800 standards, have NTSC (eg Japan) as TV signal (in most continental countries we use PAL which is better), they use 110 Volts and we 220 Volts, they think making war is the only way to make people listen to them (BUSHHHHH).... Hehehehe... And there are so many arrogant Americans who actually think that the US rules the rest of the world (of course not all of them).
Cheers
Owen, one thing that's different in the US is that the government doesn't impose standards or technologies like they tend to do in European countries. They usually choose to let market forces decide what works best, which often leads to slower implementations of standards.
Where have you heard that Americans are against a European GPS system? Just wondering because I haven't heard anything like that.
I have heard that GSM1900 is better suited to covering large areas which is a geographical consideration in a large country like the US.
NTSC broadcast format is not used only by the US and Japan. In fact, there are 3 formats being used widely in the world and none of them have become a world standard like GSM. Have a look at
this map to get a better picture of things. I agree that PAL is better than NTSC or SECAM.
Just because Holland uses 220v current doesn't mean it's a world standard. In fact, 110v and 220v are both used by many countries around the world. Have a look at
this table to see what I mean.
There are more Americans who aren't even aware of the rest of the world than those who think they rule it. Most are far more interested in making money, hehe. I sure wish people here had a better understanding of world events...
Last time I was in Amstelveen, most people were still speaking Dutch!
Jeff
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Posted: 2002-11-07 03:02:00
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To my knowledge the US had to go with the 1900 frequency because of the Department of Defense didn't want to let go of their frequencies. Telecom had the same problems with the 3G bands.
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Posted: 2002-11-07 03:26:00
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amagab, I just read the same thing.
Is it true that the license auctions have concluded for 3G frequencies in the US? I hope the DOD doesn't hinder that as well...
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Posted: 2002-11-07 03:45:00
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I can't prove this but last thing I heard was that the Clinton administration forced DOD to give up frequencies for the US 3G networks. In these arms buildup days I wonder if Bush would have done the same thing. Hopefully, most service providers will go with WCDMA.
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Posted: 2002-11-07 04:39:00
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Still kinda new to all this stuff whats the difference between GSM/3G/WCDMA ?
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Posted: 2002-11-07 05:24:00
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