News Forum Phone database

> New Topic
> Reply
< Esato Forum Index > General discussions > Non mobile discussion > Nuclear, climate perils push Doomsday Clock ahead Bookmark topic

I don't think NC is a real thread they are calling for attention. Bush refused to talk to them. They are willing.
--
Posted: 2007-01-19 07:44:19
Edit : Quote


THis guy has just the small man syndrom.
--
Posted: 2007-01-19 20:43:41
Edit : Quote


I think you'll find North Korea is all talk just like Saddam.
No country has a conventional army which can take on the might of the US. China knows this that's why they've been stealing US military secrets for years.

The only military tactic that can work effectively against the US is Guerilla Terrorism because it is low-tech, uses suicide tactics and break all the rules of war such as basic ones like wearing uniforms.

The Down Side of geurilla warfare is that you can only do it well on your own territory, ie: you have to be occupied by the US. North Korea won't be able to cope with that. Kim Jong Il (whatever his name is) will end up like Saddam if that happens.
--
Posted: 2007-01-19 23:50:48
Edit : Quote


@car - Yeah I agree mate Kim Jong Ill is just BUYING time here . . . just like what Saddam did before IRAQ was invaded . . . I am very certain that the Axis-Of-Evil countries will be INVADED by the US . . . sooner or later. Pyangyang and Tehran will be . . . . next !
--
Posted: 2007-01-20 00:14:21
Edit : Quote


No, contrary to popular belief, the US doesn't start wars for fun... It only acts when a line has been crossed, and as in Iraq 2003, 1991, Vietnam, Korea in the 50's, WW2, etc, it was in coalition with other counties.

What happens will depend on North Korea and Iran respectively.
But it's obvious the US is getting ready. After 9/11, they'd be silly not to be prepared.

I think the doomsday clock thing is just leftist scaremongering designed to cause anxiety in the public at large. Global warming, while a real threat, is manageable and not as dire as some predict.

And we're still a long way from WW3.
--
Posted: 2007-01-20 02:05:41
Edit : Quote


@carkitter, there's only one single country in the history of mankind to ever have launched a nuclear attack against another, killing thousands of innocent people, including children. Everyone knows which country that is.

This same country also attacks middle eastern areas, basically places where oil reserves are, for reasons like "bringing freedom and democracy", or weapons of mass destruction even though it is known doesn't exist.

If some countries have nukes, you can not forbid others to have them too.

On the other hand, there's always a possibility that some nut comes up with a cold-war leftover bomb, and starts it all over again, somewhat like it was in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[ This Message was edited by: lastikcizme on 2007-01-20 16:35 ]
--
Posted: 2007-01-20 17:34:13
Edit : Quote


Quote:
On 2007-01-20 17:34:13, lastikcizme wrote:
@carkitter, there's only one single country in the history of mankind to ever have launched a nuclear attack against another, killing thousands of innocent people, including children. Everyone knows which country that is.

This same country also attacks middle eastern areas, basically places where oil reserves are, for reasons like "bringing freedom and democracy", or weapons of mass destruction even though it is known doesn't exist.

So what does that have to do with the Doomsday Clock? There a plenty of other threads for anti-American sentiment.

Quote:
On 2007-01-20 17:34:13, lastikcizme wrote:
If some countries have nukes, you can not forbid others to have them too.

I haven't forbidden anything. I think you'll find that's the job of the UN.
Personally, I would't want to see nukes in the hands of a Middle Eastern country whose leader has stated he wants to destroy Israel.
You may disagree... but as you don't like seeing thousands of innocents killed by nuclear weapons, I don't see how you can argue otherwise.

Quote:
On 2007-01-20 17:34:13, lastikcizme wrote:
On the other hand, there's always a possibility that some nut comes up with a cold-war leftover bomb, and starts it all over again, somewhat like it was in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[ This Message was edited by: lastikcizme on 2007-01-20 16:35 ]

I seriously doubt it. It would have happened by now.
--
Posted: 2007-01-21 03:42:27
Edit : Quote


You forget that China has the largest land army on the planet and NK the second largest. There are 10 Charlies for every US guy.
--
Posted: 2007-01-21 07:36:22
Edit : Quote


@residing - Yeah . . . and 50,000 - 100,000 of those Chinese warriors can be accomodated by 1 nuke BOMB of the - USA !
--
Posted: 2007-01-21 07:55:34
Edit : Quote


carkitter, my post isn't anti-American. i posted in reply to your message claiming that US doesn't start wars for fun, and i posted nothing but the truth, to the best of my knowledge.

Well, not for fun, but you'll agree that US chases its own agenda attacking countries and keeping prisoners and such, and doesn't need to validate its reasons - fine for me, you're the superpower, of course you'll act upon your interests. But please don't tell me that US acts when a line is crossed, as they carelessly cross lines everywhere on the world.

Don't worry about Israel, they have nukes themselves, and are capable of defending themselves, as seen during the war in 50's or something.

There are ways middle eastern countries can cease to be a threat, but attacking everywhere stirring up conflicts between nations, causing the loss of thousands in collateral damage, threatening other parts of the world as they themselves cause many sufferings are not the right way to accomplish things.

Please remember that sympathy against America has decreased dramatically since the war in Iraq. They executed Saddam for killing a hundred people, and caused more deaths in the aftermath. Somethings wrong here.

If US meant to deliver democracy to Iraq, they failed miserably. It is so much worse than it used to be, but now US has regions with oil on Northern Iraq under control of its allies, Kurdish terrorist groups. Generally, you can't really do good doing bad. You try to bring freedom and democracy, but ended up claiming the oil rigs? Why are people so mad at US?

I'm sorry if i have offended anyone here on this post, and i think i'm not going to continue the discussion any longer, if i could have made my point clear with this post. Thanks for your time..
--
Posted: 2007-01-21 12:22:29
Edit : Quote

---

New Topic   Reply

Forum Index