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ben82 Posts: 107

BTW, all orange dealers have been affected by lowered commisons, not just smalltalk!

Phones on VODAFONE and BT CELLNET are given guide prices predelivery and prices for these fluctuate daily, like FOREX. Reason being that there are many sources dealers source the phones from, not from THE network. SO differnt sources charge delears differnt prices based on supply demand and intertemporal price descrimination.

Smalltalk know exactly how much they are buying the phones for!


[ This Message was edited by: ben82 on 2002-02-07 00:21 ]
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Posted: 2002-02-07 00:20:00
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Batch_2002 Posts: 52

Actually I didn't mean that the price Smalltalk pay for the phone was changing, but the price to the consumer is. If Orange change commission again before the phone is in stock (and I don't know the frequency they do this so it may be unlikly), surely the price may to the consumr may fluctuate.

Pre-ordering as far as I can tell is simply putting yourself in a queue for the phone at a rough price that is dependant on the current comission levels.

And yes all resellers are effected by the price rise. My fault for any missunderstanding, I wasn't clear but what I ment was other resellers have followed suite by already reflecting a rise in pre-order price due to the decreased comission.

[ This Message was edited by: Batch_2002 on 2002-02-07 09:53 ]
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Posted: 2002-02-07 09:51:00
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Cheys_007 Posts: 49

Adamrj:

I was told by a Carphone Warehouse fella that the reason for the delay with Orange and the newest phones is because they like to give it a thorough bug-test before releasing. Something about their support plan...

Personally I think he was talking out of his arse.
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Posted: 2002-02-07 13:39:00
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ben82 Posts: 107

All networks, change their dealer commission rates, if any, to take effect at the first day of the new month.
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Posted: 2002-02-07 16:57:00
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Marc Obermann Posts: 5

spoke to orange today as am awaiting my T68, they said there last delivery of T68 had german language so had to be sent back. new phones due in next two to three days.
am using T39 at present, why are bluetooth cards so much cheaper in the USA ? & why won't they sell to the UK
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Posted: 2002-02-08 02:31:00
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Marc Obermann Posts: 5

anyone waiting for T68 on orange they have just had a delivery today & will be sending them out over the next couple of days. If you want one on orangespeak to them direct and you should be able to get one. Dealers may have to wait for theirs & there is no advantage to you the customer in not buying direct from Orange
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Posted: 2002-02-09 00:30:00
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ben82 Posts: 107

Bluetooth may be more expensive in UK for many reasons.

There could be few sellers or distributors in the UK supplying bluetooth. And/or low supply of them to the UK.

The above can arise if manufacturers see the UK as demand insufficient and decide not to sell to the UK. The manufacturers would lose if they decide to supply UK especially if they have a rising MC fucntion. They would supply to a higher demand group (US) A situation of excess demand prevails in UK and prices are higher than should be.

The other less likey reason would be if the UK demand for bluetooth was highly inelastic relative to US, meaning customers are highly price insensitive, customers would pay a higher price therefore bluetooth become more expensive in the UK. This is unlikely as demand for bluetooth in UK is small.

I would discuss futhur but my head is hurting.

Chief Business Economist

BEN S
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Posted: 2002-02-09 01:44:00
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