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On T-mobile in the US, they just charge by the data you've transferred. It's $2.99 for 1MB + 300 SMS or $9.99 for 10MB + 300SMS.

Note that both incoming and outgoing SMS and MMS are charged.

You get charged $0.01 for every 10Kbytes overage so roughly 1-2 cents per MMS (I'm assuming 10K-20K MMS messages) if you go over your 1MB limit. I managed to use 400K in 1 week with heavy usage (lot of testing) so I guess 1MB is about what I'd use in a month.

But even at $0.30 an MMS it's an awful lot of messages before it makes sense to buy a $500 software.....

So again, nice little gizmo, no real use to anyone......
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Posted: 2002-11-28 02:14:00
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I may have misunderstood, but I think one of the benefits is the gateway to the mobile network from your PC.

If you can send and receive SMS, MMS etc from your PC then you can remotely control your PC as well.

For example, you could send SMS/MMS to:
- Start "ping" commands to check whether your website was running
- Check the availability of a domain name
- Perform just about any function that you can write a batch file for

It does have some uses for the everyday joe. Next time you're sat at your PC ask yourself "could I have done this from my mobile?"

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Posted: 2002-11-28 08:53:00
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Well, I don't know about you, but I get up around 8, then get into my clothes, get to the office around 8:30, then sit in front of two PCs (one Windows PC, one Linux Laptop) writing C/C++ code all day while both are hooked on the corporate network giving me access to the internet.
While I'm doing this, my home PC is sitting home connected to the end of a cable modem with a fixed IP address running windows XP pro. If I want to get to my home PC to check on something I just run terminal server from my windows machine at work and I can even print to my work printer from home....

Then around 12:00 I go and have lunch with my friends and I'm glad that I can be away from those nasy pointers and dynamic data structures and the multi threaded multitasking system I am developing software for.

Then at about 13:00 I go back to work and sit in front of the two PCs until about 17:30 and while I'm there I have access to my corporate e-mail as well as to all three of my POP3 personal e-mail accounts.

Then at about 17:30 I head on home and watch a little TV, then have dinner and sit in front of my home PC and download stuff off the net, surf message boards and edit home videos.

Then around 1:00 I go to bed. (I also take a bath and brush by teeth in case you wondered.....)

So there is just not much time in my day when I REALLY want to get connected to my PC yet I can't, and I really doubt that running a MMS server at home on my PC would be any kind of solution to the big problem of me not being able to start a defrag on my harddrive while I'm taking a dump.......

Not to mention that I know about 100 better ways to spend $500.......


But that's just me..... I'm sore there are a TON of everyday Joes out there who want to get connected to their PCs from a galaxy far far away......
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Posted: 2002-11-28 09:05:00
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I just realized that this software actually costs $745 and you can only send 1000 messages for that money!!! I'm sure this software will be selling like hot-cakes!
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Posted: 2002-11-28 09:09:00
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Not everyone spends their day in an office connected to any sort of network. I used to spend more than half my day driving between customers.

But $750 for 1000 messages is a cr@p deal... I don't think they've thought it through (or maybe they are just greedy!)
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Posted: 2002-11-28 09:21:00
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That 1000 messages per month, but still.....
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Posted: 2002-11-28 09:49:00
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I'm still not saying that you should buy it and use it for personal use. Of course that would be too expensive.

But the software is available and the intended market isn't consumers of course. But with competion on the MMS market the prices might go down.

You would of course need to be able to send more than 1000 messages if you start an MMS service, and you could get more. But of course you have to pay more. I don't think it's that expensive considering that it's the only program you need to start your own MMSC. And for a company that would like to launch MMS service that is not much money.
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Posted: 2002-11-28 11:22:00
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I still don't understand the big fuss about this software. It is an e-mail relay server. Nothing more. Could be written by anyone and I'm sure it will be.

I've read the MMS standard documentation and developer guide and there is absolutely NOTHING spectacular about the way it works, it is a MIME message with header, an SMIL file (similar to HTML) that decribes the message and then the attached media files. No brainer. So even I could write similar program, however I have no intentions to do so......

So again, good luck to those people who are selling that software, in the US it will have absolutely NO value as far as a competitive MMS service goes since you pay by GPRS traffic already not by the message and you'd be paying the same no matter whose MMS server you're going through. As as sfar as remote controlling your PC, just read my post above......

In the other parts of the world, they will catch onto the same billing eventually....... It's just a matter of time to realize that that makes more sense. Until then these guys better sell a shitload of this software because after that they surely won't


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Posted: 2002-11-28 19:30:00
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I don't think MMS will ever be paid by the amount of data transferred in Europe. The service providers want it to work like the sms services.

I have not heard of any other service provider that charges you for the amount of data you transfer. No service provider (AFAIK) in europe uses that billing method, and they will not change to that method.
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Posted: 2002-11-28 19:56:00
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It seems like here in the US we get the technology much slower than you guys in Europe, however it seems like our money goes a lot longer way than yours.......

I am from Hungary and every time I think the US is finally catching up, we got GSM, and we finally got MMS and picture mesaging, they already got video download for your phone in Hungary.

However a 300 minute plan with free roaming and long distance to anywhere in the US with 1MB GPRS would set me back $30 a month, the same would cost close to $80 in Hungary.

In Europe people like to pay for EXACTLY what the use, here we prefer to have a bucket of minutes and a bucket of data and use as much as we please out of that. So you're right, in Europe they will probably stick to the per message charge on the MMS which I think sucks (for you guys)!
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Posted: 2002-11-28 22:30:00
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