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Creationism?

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[ This Message was edited by: Dicky Snapples on 2007-08-31 11:06 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-31 12:06:33
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So it tells us that it was god that created man and woman and then later on it informs us that Adam was the first man. I understand now.


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Posted: 2007-08-31 12:15:08
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I dont see whats so funny in that. Whats so funny mate?
But yes at one point this will get funny I can sense that.

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[ This Message was edited by: Twometre on 2008-03-30 07:00 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-31 12:17:49
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Why you so serious @comfort mdu??


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Posted: 2007-08-31 12:33:52
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Lets take this discussion a little wider, God being God, (if you accept the concept), is omnipresent and omnipowerful, that means he knows everything/created everything/ can foresee everything/can do anything.
That being the case, howcome so much evil exists in the world?,
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Posted: 2007-08-31 12:38:20
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@mweb6161

Because these things are put on earth to test us - or so the argument goes.

God has gave us the gift of life - it is up to us what we do with it.

For example, if you give a friend a gift and that gift was a paintbrush, then the friend goes and pokes someones eye out with it. Is it your fault or the friends fault that evil was done?

This of course doesn't explain why people die from starvation, drought and disease. That may be another discussion altogether.
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Posted: 2007-08-31 12:49:21
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Goldenface, i was actually trained as a Baptist minister in my late teens and early twenties, however as i grew older, logic and an increasing scepticism forced me to study the BIG questions in life which led me to my current atheistic/humanist standpoint.
We ain't allowed to discuss religion on M-R forum BTW, so i like the fact that Esato can deal with topics that relate to that
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Posted: 2007-08-31 13:06:28
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Well in the case of god, as he knows all (allegedly) he would surely be able to see the future.

So if your had the same powers you would know that that paintbrush was going to be used for eye poking. So intern would be your fault for giving him the brush knowing what he would do with it (that’s how I see it). But then your get the whole “freewill” nonsense.



Well in the past certain threads on religion have been locked due to certain members being childish and not having the ability to discuss and accept other member’s points of view (some of which threads certainly teached me a lot about other religions, which I am grateful for).

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Posted: 2007-08-31 13:19:08
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@mweb6161

Actually you may be surprised hear that I come from the same viewoint as yourself; being brought up Roman Catholic I came to the conclusion that there wasn't enough answers.

However, I have also learnt to accept that people have different beliefs and although I may not always agree with them I still respect them.




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Posted: 2007-08-31 13:20:58
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@joebmc

I don't know. Thats a big scary IF in my eyes.

If I gave you a gift knowing you will do evil things with it, then wouldn't that also make me evil?

Whats the freewill nonsense?

[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2007-08-31 12:40 ]
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Posted: 2007-08-31 13:37:56
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