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Dogmann Posts: > 500

@GUCCI.011

That can't happen with the W960 as it's hardware isn't able to produce the results you want as it still has the same hardware as the P990 including the the Lite version of the Power VR MBX graphics chip and this is why it can't record 30fps VGA video.

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-09-16 19:39 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-16 20:39:11
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Supa_Fly Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-16 17:44:35, goldenface wrote:
Or maybe it is keeping the increased rate there for a more advanced version.



Most likly, but they've been restricting us to lower resolutions, and 15fps on just about every model for years (save for the W900). With 5MP cam; it should be expected to be reasonable & needed by SE to allow 30fps (smooth with auto focus and anti-shake enabled)! I WANT IT now SE you B!&(* ! (that was for SE, btw).

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Posted: 2007-09-16 21:34:24
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Hurst Posts: 131

SE keeps VGA under wraps to release it on the facelift (ala k810). If you follow their strategy for the last 1.5 years, it is to hold back on products to use the upgrades in future products. It's cheaper than producing an n95 that's for sure.

Personally, I find it appalling and it's the reason why innovative companies like Apple mop the floor with dinosaurs who groupthink their profit paradigms.
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Posted: 2007-09-16 22:03:49
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cristiano Posts: > 500

why only K850??
what about W910+W960?
at least they should make K850 VGA @30 fps and W960+W910 VGA @15 fps
K850 is not the only mobile with a camera
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Posted: 2007-09-16 22:10:09
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goldenface Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-16 21:34:24, Prom1 wrote:
Most likely, but they've been restricting us to lower resolutions, and 15fps on just about every model for years (save for the W900). With 5MP cam; it should be expected to be reasonable & needed by SE to allow 30fps (smooth with auto focus and anti-shake enabled)! I WANT IT now SE you B!&(* ! (that was for SE, btw).



I know! What are they holding back for? The W900i was announced years ago and it still hasn't been bettered in some respects. May be they are waiting to launch a new range of phones with Improved Video but lots of peeps are getting sick of the wait. GRRRRrrrrr...!
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Posted: 2007-09-16 22:37:57
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SilveR. Posts: > 500

Or get a real Digital Cam,.

How ever for some video rec very important, for me it's only a bonus..
Depend what the buyers wants
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Posted: 2007-09-16 23:03:03
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Mizzle Posts: > 500

@christiano because K850 is capable of doing it. Don't know about the others.
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Posted: 2007-09-17 00:00:07
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Supa_Fly Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-16 22:10:09, cristiano wrote:
why only K850??
what about W910+W960?
at least they should make K850 VGA @30 fps and W960+W910 VGA @15 fps
K850 is not the only mobile with a camera


However, its the ONLY one with the MP to support the clarity at VGA resolution - without a dedicated mobile video card.

Like Goldenface said whats taking them soo long to release native VGA @ 30fps! rumored Video phone is NOT coming to other regions than Japan. Wait no longer should we!

another "get a real camera" post I'm gonna FREAK! sorry no offense to SilvR. Just that we rather carry 1 device that CAN take excellent photos. Most moments with fun outtings night escapades, or fun times with loved ones & family included are within a focal distance of 10 feet - usually, perfect for CamPhones or point & shoot. With resolutions increasing and lens quality improving we're going to see MORE of an overlap! Now with ISO control a whole new ballgame.
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Posted: 2007-09-17 00:59:27
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Dogmann Posts: > 500

@thecoolsha


The K850 can do it because to date when released it will be the most advanced and highly specified SE device. It wipes the floor with the specs found in it's so called Flagship smart phones. That unfortunately still rely on the same hardware that was announced for the P990, this is whilst others say there is nothing wrong with the hardware found in these devices i strongly disagree and also think they are in need of an urgent update to far newer processors and graphics so they can give things like HSDPA and proper video recording along with all the other benefits that come with them.

This why however great looking these new devices are they are just re packaged old tech nothing new or really ground breaking but they could be just so much more. They could and should IMO be up there with the new TYTN and E90 that is what i expected of SE to deliver and in the past would of.

Since UIQ3 SE have stagnated they only new thing they added to their smart phones was 128 Ram and only then because that was so badly needed to achieve stability lets not kid ourselves it's any different.

How ever much even Masseur likes his P1 just ask him which device he reaches for when he wants to access the web? Even though he wasn't that keen on the N95 in the end he used it with his N770 as modem as the speed difference is just so great. Now of course he has his TYTN that appears to be his device of choice.

If your an SE fan or not you have to realise this is there current greatest weakness along with lousy customer support. Even Motorola in it's fist UIQ3 device gave it a better processor and graphics plus a 16million colour screen and HSDPA even non smart phones are getting HSDPA but not SE's flagship devices.

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2007-09-17 00:14 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-17 01:13:55
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mib1800 Posts: > 500

I just dont buy the idea that SE purposely disable the vga@30fps video record in K850. What's the point of that? It is not like K850 would cannibalise another SE premium handycam phone since SE DONT have one yet.


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Posted: 2007-09-17 03:27:13
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