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Andy_P Posts: > 500

how can u have an 8gb m2 yet ?

searched everywhere & cant find.. just ordered a 4gb for £36 delivered which is reasonable.
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Posted: 2007-09-23 23:47:57
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mode Posts: > 500

Yes, 8gb m2 is not yet in the market. The thread author is just wondering whether it would be compatible to P1 when it does become available
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Posted: 2007-09-24 07:17:51
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Supa_Fly Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-21 23:50:46, juniji wrote:

YES. No problem.

the attached picture shows 3151/7691 MB available on my P1.





^ Where did you source an 8GB M2 card from? Please explain, inform so that we may ALL rejoice
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Posted: 2007-09-24 07:44:30
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gardar Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-21 23:50:46, juniji wrote:

YES. No problem.

the attached picture shows 3151/7691 MB available on my P1.





Photoshopped?
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Posted: 2007-09-24 12:48:27
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Bambino Posts: > 500

As i remember
1kb = 96bytes not 100bytes (which many people assume)
So
1mb=960kb
1gb=960mb
2gb=1,920mb
4gb=3,840mb
8gb=7,680mb

So, there is nothing wrong with that 8gb M2.
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Posted: 2007-09-24 13:52:00
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below24 Posts: > 500

It works fine.
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Posted: 2007-09-24 14:45:49
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sdsviet Posts: 82


On 2007-09-24 13:52:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
As i remember
1kb = 96bytes not 100bytes (which many people assume)
So
1mb=960kb
1gb=960mb
2gb=1,920mb
4gb=3,840mb
8gb=7,680mb

So, there is nothing wrong with that 8gb M2.


I dont think sony applies these setttings to their m2 cards because their 1gb m2 = 911mb
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Posted: 2007-09-24 15:11:09
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altemyr Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-24 15:11:09, sdsviet wrote:

On 2007-09-24 13:52:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
As i remember
1kb = 96bytes not 100bytes (which many people assume)
So
1mb=960kb
1gb=960mb
2gb=1,920mb
4gb=3,840mb
8gb=7,680mb

So, there is nothing wrong with that 8gb M2.


I dont think sony applies these setttings to their m2 cards because their 1gb m2 = 911mb


The calculations above are incorrect imho. 1Kbytes = 1024 bytes, 1 Mbytes = 1024 Kbytes = 1024*1024 = 1,048,576 bytes, etc (*), but the notations on the memory sticks, as well as what's on disk drives and other media is the size unformatted. When the media is formatted, parts of the storage space becomes consumed by memory management, like filename indexes, bad sector trackings, and a lot of other administrative information that you cannot see as a user, so that is the reason for that a 1MB M2 contains only 960 KB, for example. As far as I remember, the M2 format consumes somewhat more overhead than other memory card formats, i.e. you can fit in a little more music on a 1 GB SD micro card than on a 1 GB M2 card.

(*) To be absolutely correct, the notation 1Kbytes actually stands for 1000 bytes. If you really mean 1024 bytes, the correct notation is 1 Ki bytes, according to the most recent SI standards.
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Posted: 2007-09-24 15:40:08
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gardar Posts: > 500


On 2007-09-24 15:40:08, altemyr wrote:

On 2007-09-24 15:11:09, sdsviet wrote:

On 2007-09-24 13:52:00, nokiamaniax wrote:
As i remember
1kb = 96bytes not 100bytes (which many people assume)
So
1mb=960kb
1gb=960mb
2gb=1,920mb
4gb=3,840mb
8gb=7,680mb

So, there is nothing wrong with that 8gb M2.


I dont think sony applies these setttings to their m2 cards because their 1gb m2 = 911mb


The calculations above are incorrect imho. 1Kbytes = 1024 bytes, 1 Mbytes = 1024 Kbytes = 1024*1024 = 1,048,576 bytes, etc (*), but the notations on the memory sticks, as well as what's on disk drives and other media is the size unformatted. When the media is formatted, parts of the storage space becomes consumed by memory management, like filename indexes, bad sector trackings, and a lot of other administrative information that you cannot see as a user, so that is the reason for that a 1MB M2 contains only 960 KB, for example. As far as I remember, the M2 format consumes somewhat more overhead than other memory card formats, i.e. you can fit in a little more music on a 1 GB SD micro card than on a 1 GB M2 card.

(*) To be absolutely correct, the notation 1Kbytes actually stands for 1000 bytes. If you really mean 1024 bytes, the correct notation is 1 Ki bytes, according to the most recent SI standards.


You're exactly right altemyr. Nokiamaniax calculations are wrong.. I don't even know where he gets those numbers
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Posted: 2007-09-24 18:15:45
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juniji Posts: 116

Guys,
There's nothing wrong with the 8GB. This is the normal user area. You will note that all capacity points (as the guys have noted very clearly below) have less user area than the advertized capacity.

The 8GB will not be in retail for a while, but there are 8GB engineering samples available. This experiment was done with an engineering sample.

Juniji


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Posted: 2007-09-24 19:58:21
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