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Ruvjet Posts: 268

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On 2002-12-11 13:57, 701 wrote:
Hehe battery is the most unimportant feature with the 3g-that phone is not working yet as there is no netw 4it lol and there won't b 4 another year..


Maybe in your country, but we are ready to roll next month in the UK..
www.three.co.uk
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Posted: 2003-01-16 00:27:00
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kallingen Posts: 282

those 3G-nets here in sweden shall be done before 31th December 2003 here in sweden.. so about 1 year we´re ready to rock!

Please be patiant...

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Joakim Käll, Sweden

* Owner Of A SonyEricsson P800 *

[ This Message was edited by: kallingen on 2003-01-15 23:38 ]
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Posted: 2003-01-16 00:37:00
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Caspa Posts: > 500

I think the P800 still has a good life ahead of it...it was thought by many in the industry to be a 3G handset when it was introduced and demonstrated. Now as for 3... We'll have to wait and see, mass uptake will be a long and slow process, handsets are limited, 3G coverage will be too (just like Tmob was), and i don't like the idea of roaming on O2...but they are keeping their cases close to their chests, who knows what they might have up their sleeves! It will be interesting to see them grow and develop.. This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2003-01-16 00:56:00
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Dj Boyi Posts: > 500

3G is a known flop in Japan,only 10% of the predicted no. subsribed and not many ppl have COLOUR phones(in uk) never mind 3G phones. I think the p800 has a long life going by the above. :-) This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2003-01-16 01:07:00
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Caspa Posts: > 500

I mean cards!... Orangeman...any news on the P800?...my upgrades due mid-feb, and i got no news at work bout the Orange version! This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2003-01-16 01:08:00
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T68iFan Posts: 214

Interesting looking handsets on the three site. Those phones are still only concept drawings, right? The one with 2 cameras onboard - wow. Video calling will be sweet!

If it's going to take another year to build out 3G nets in Europe, it'll prob take 2 years here in U.S.

lingart, thanks for the heads up.

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Posted: 2003-01-16 01:11:00
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FuricTrax Posts: 261

The phones you see on the 3 site are not concepts but wil actually be available in the UK in January or February. Cool huh!
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Posted: 2003-01-16 02:11:00
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Caveman Posts: 168

I'd heard that '3' is likely to be delayed for a few more weeks, so that they can launch on 3-3-03. So far, I've only seen 'orders being taken' on the phones4u website. I can't see 3G making much of an impact amongst non-business users for a good couple of years, due to the price. Hopefully by then, the battery life will improve to levels that we expect and have now. Wasn't Hutchison behind the Rabbit mobile phone venture of the late 1980s/ early 1990s ?
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Posted: 2003-01-27 18:04:00
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jplacson Posts: > 500

Just wondering, are 3G networks backwards compatible with current GSM handsets? (Can I use a regular dual-band GSM phone on a 3G network?) Because I feel it's very foolish of telcos to assume that all GSM subscribers will upgrade to 3G just for the data services????

Right now, GPRS is still free in the Philippines, and not everyone with a GPRS enabled phone surfs. Most people have never even tried WAP. (I know of a few T68i owners who haven't... not cuz they don't know how...but cuz they never needed it)

3G services are great... but I think they're making the same mistake that D-AMPS, TDMA, and CDMA networks made... way too expensive for services people don't really need or want.

It's FUN to have a video phone...but that's all it is...FUN. If a video call would cost as much as a regular phone call... people would migrate... but not at current projected 3G rates.

Remember what happened to Iridium?? It was THE END ALL mobile phone... GSM where available, and satellite anywhere else...one number, one email, one fax... ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD! And for a satellite phone, they were very affordable... what happened? They entered the market too soon!

Yes folks, in the tech world...it is possible to be 'ahead of your time'. If the market isn't ready for it...you'll flop. GSM came in at the right time and offered subscribers the ONE thing that CDMA couldn't... the ability to upgrade your handset whenever you wanted...without informing your provider.... the SIM card spelled the difference between GSM and CDMA... not the services or data security...CDMA was the clear winner in terms of technology. GSM gave subscribers convenience.

If they can drop the prices of 3G subscriptions and handsets to GSM prices... people will migrate... if not... people won't see a need to.

With regards to the incredible data speeds of 3G... yes, very impressive... but why??? Just so I can play counterstrike on my phone? Or have my boss see where I REALLY am??? WiFi networks are much cheaper and offer greater speeds at lower prices. And who would be willing to pay per KB for streaming news in their car??? Current GPRS can give me great news updates via WAP at very affordable rates..I don't need to watch CNN streamed into my mobile phone while paying per KB.

Seems to me that 3G networks are geared for services that will make subscribers pay more, rather than GSM where services geared towards what subscribers want.
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Posted: 2003-01-27 18:27:00
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Caveman Posts: 168

It won't be possible to use a GSM-only phone to get 3G services, in the same way that you need a suitably-equipped phone for GPRS services. However, I would suspect that the 3 phones can be used on GSM, as they will be able to roam on O2 when out of the initial 3G coverage area. There didn't appear to be a coverage map on 3's website - I wonder why ? Could it be that the services are not going to live up to the hype ?
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Posted: 2003-01-27 18:50:00
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