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Hi Mark
Yeah, we all know the press and magazines.
But again they dont always have the whole story,...and they like to give away prices and releases...it looks good
E.g. magazines work this way,..we all know that,..they do it for a living.
We (Nextlink) never did speak about a specific date or price,..we only gave some indications.
I know what You meant, when you said that all new products can be delayed and problems might occure. You're right
All I meant was to say, that we untill now, dont have any sort of problems.
We hope to deliever a good product,..which doesnt have "child-diseases",...and of course we hope to deliever on time !
Thats always the hard part,...because this depends a lot on the people we work with as well.
Of course I respect You for not wanting to buy it. We're all critical about stuff,..personally I woulnt want a microwave-oven, hehe,...and I dont have one.
I like to investigate things too, before throwing myself into it,...might be a bit "old-school",..ok I'm 34. But I like to know, what I'm getting into/buying, before doing it.
I quite like the scandinavian designs too, the only real problem, is prices. It always turns out very expensive,..even in the country its produced
See Ya
Jan
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Posted: 2002-02-11 23:12:00
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thanks Jan, and I know reading your posts that you always are very open about no release date. That is good.
Any more mobile phone and/or bluetooth users experiencing similar headaches etc?
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Posted: 2002-02-11 23:57:00
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I've used GSM mobiles for about six years, and for at least the last three to four years, I have experienced mobile related headaches of varying intensities. They generally start a few minutes into a call on the side where the mobile is, and creep across my head the longer the call is. I normally change ears, which means the headache then starts on the other side too....!
I have been very tempted to get a T39 to use with my iPAQ, and am very interested in the bluetooth receiver with attached earpiece/microphone, but Expansys seem to only list that accessory as compatible with the T68 and not the T39.... do you know if this is the case?
Anyway, I think that should have been in several threads.....
I've tried many phones over the years, and have so far found the best to be the Motorola Kramer based phones like the V3690 and V50. I personally put this down to the air space between the aerial and the screen, and the radiation blocking properties of the screen.... I have also seen that the SAR level on these phones are much lower than on other handsets.
The worst phones I remember using for a while were Ericsson 768 and Nokia 3210.
I have been very tempted to invest in a bluetooth enabled phone/headset, but I've been apprehensive due to the potentials of increased headaches meaning I've wasted a few hundred pounds, and potential interference with my 2.4GHz video senders.
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Posted: 2002-02-12 00:33:00
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Doogie > I work for the company Nextlink, who makes the Bluespoon,..actually I designed it
It will work on T-28 with adapter, T-39, T-68, R 520 and Nokia 6310.
And of course the other bluetooth-phones that are coming.
This you can read about here :
http://www.nextlink.to
Jan
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Posted: 2002-02-12 00:59:00
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my first mobile was a Motorola 8500(original pre GSM Brick), best phone ever made.
it got used regular and i made more than your average users number of calls on it as i worked in the phone industry.
never had a single issue with headaches, the phone was big enough to hold with 2 hands and the aerial was probaly longer than a t68.
my last analog phone was an ericsson EH337...maybe add 1/3 to the height of the t68 and it was a fair bit thicker.
this phone for me launched ericsson in the UK market and set a standard like the NEC P3 & Motorola StarTac before it.
this was when the headaches started...my airtime use when i got the EH337 went up a little...headaches started to be more frequent and i put it down to the size of the phone being condensed with not enough materials sheilding the components from your head.
this was also the quickest phone to overheat. recently i had a faulty t28 that overheat in seconds when i put the battery on.
the metal base plate would burn your finger to touch...very dangerous.
todays GSM phones are no different, some will fry your head after prolonged use, there's also varying factors such as good reception & battery power, these can cause headaches to occur.
i haven't studied the effects a great deal just observed frommy own experience, it also counts that i clock up hours worth of airtime in the thousands each month and have done for roughly 6 years now on GSM.
at work i've worn a headset for fixed line phones for more that 10 hours a day and never experienced any similiar effects like with the mobile.
...end of trainspotting rant
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Posted: 2002-02-12 07:13:00
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hi decoy7,
your comment about the screen on the Motorola V50 and other similar designed phones is v interesting.
thought about that over the weekend, and the screen might act as a electromagnetic block for radiation from the aerial behind it - very interesting.
i have ordered the bluetooth Ericsson HBH-20 to test that - as it has the receiver around your neck instead of next to your ear.
Also, i have also just bought a new handsfree kit invented in the UK that is basically a microphone/speaker attached to a tube to conduct the sound through the air to your head. very basic idea but smart thinking by the inventor
it can be found at
http://www.safetalkforlife.com
i will be reporting back with both results
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Posted: 2002-02-18 17:13:00
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Hi, Wallet,
It is many years since I was posting on the Internet....
Well, here we go with my two cents:
I get headaches phoning with GSM's. In the past even by being in the same room with one. I used to hang an antenna out of the window (bit extreme) which did the trick (Siemens S6).
Started to feel much better with newer phones (first Nokia communicator so big that antenna was further away...). Later earpieces and actually no headaches with those (Sony Z5). Girlfriend's father, who is toxicologist and has read some "not for our eyes" research results does not let his kids phone without headset. He is not so worried about areal effect of the earpiece, but would not be surprised if it existed.
Now I use HBH-20 with NOKIA 6310i. Great combination (only in my particular specimen extremely short battery life.
At the moment in contact with Ericsson about replacement). Sound quality great. Low profile was the reason I baught this one. Did not think about harmful BT waves. Now extra happy (if they fix my battery...).
About the pains... I have used with Homeopathy as my major health care for many years (not open to debate in this forum ), since I was small. I have come to accept that the lower intensity, frequency or higher dilution in our environment does not always mean less impact on physical health. Like one small bullet VS shot of hail...
So I would not be surprised about BT. It would be a kind of homeopatic version of GSM and therefore much more potent. Also try not to wear on the heart... I am not a phisician or expert, so don't take these remarks too seriously, these are just my ideas...
As for the HBH-20: I have done 1.5 hrs of phoning within three hours with no headache. I have not tried HBH-15 or other "near ear" models, so I would not know about them.
The nature of the particular headaches I get from GSM is that they start with extreme neck cramps going up into the scull and causing long lasting cracking pain high up in the brain. Some people have suggested that the problem is holding head and arm in one position resulting in heck cramps and then headaches. Some people would not feel the neck cramps so would think the pain comes into the brain directly. Well, I don't know. Feels pretty weird near my ear as well anyway.
Have done so much unprotected headache phoning years ago, am not so sure if all efforts now are still worth it. Well.. let's hope so.
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Posted: 2002-05-27 10:20:00
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I thought Bluetooth product will consume less power ( a fact) and at the same time generate very small amount of Radiation compare to GSM mobile? Which is why it was refer to be safer.
so there shouldn't be much fear whether it is HBH-20 or HBH-15 or Bluespoon.
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Posted: 2002-05-28 12:47:00
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The fact is that according to the specs BT devices emit 0.001W at 2.4 GHz . Normal mobile phone would emit between 1 and 2 Watts at 900/1800MHz, which is at least a thousand times more. I've been using my BT headset for a while now and have never experienced anything of what you wrote about. I guess the problem you are experiencing might be caused by an improper grip of the ear hook. There are few big nerves located in the ear erea and if one of them is continuosly irritated or compressed it might give such type of feeling. IMHO.
Best regards.
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Posted: 2002-05-28 15:51:00
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I would look into the speakers where putting out when you where using the phone. It could be giving out a highpitch sound which you are not noticing and giving you headaches. I had this with a sound system and my headsets would give me headaches, had a friend look into it and there was continous highpitch sound coming out which I had not noticed.
I dont think that the radiation output of the phone itself could have caused the headache. Also see if the person you tend to talk to gives you headaches as well
It does for me when I get telemarketers.
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Posted: 2002-05-28 16:12:00
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