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Interesting thread, maybe you won't like what I have to say.
Now alternative fuels are great technologies. Like someone else said, I think the solar concept is out for now until someone can create super high efficiency solar panels. What's really interested me is how someone in France developed a car that simply runs on compressed air. It just doesn't get better than that. Easy to recharge, all you need is a power point, and the built in compressor fills up the 3-4 cylinders with compressed air. The car is very light, 0 emissions, easy to manufacture and can do decent speeds and upto 300+ miles (or kms, not sure which.)
Here's the problem. How do we get governments to put these in the market? The hydrogen fuel cell has already been developed and is being used in different industries, and has been designed to work in cars as well for a few years now. But how do you get a government to abandon the concept of making money from oil? It won't happen. Wars were started just for oil. Governments milk money off the people with oil, funny thing is how some countries just don't protest and take it quietly in the a**. I remember the news article in early 2007, 1st quarter profits for Exxon Mobile exceed 900 mil. And then what with people like Dick Cheney and others owning oil fields? Would they ever want to run at a loss? Nope. The war's basically a front, and everytime they need to hike oil prices to maintain stability of their economy (like the falling $ value), they claim difficulties in Iraq and Iran as excuses.
Bottom line, despite what the presses and newspapers state: the oil industry is huge, and large enough reason to maintain wars, etc. and governments will milk it for what its worth. And they're not about to let this huge money making machine just disappear.
Now who wouldn't want a car that they could maintain without paying the $1000s in gas every year?
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Posted: 2007-12-06 12:07:04
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www.veggiecar.com hehe
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Posted: 2007-12-06 12:53:02
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Muhammad-Oli Posts: > 500
@benjijk:
Very true. But governments are slowly starting to realise they have to stop being selfish. Cars like the Prius, in some countries, are discounted to the public by the government. And governments have been giving car manufacturers money to develop new fuels and new technology for years now.
I think the Hydrogen route is one where the governments can still make money, because Hydrogen will still have to be sold at the pump, so it can be taxed.
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Posted: 2007-12-06 16:00:04
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Oh if they tax hydrogen...
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Posted: 2007-12-06 19:48:46
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On 2007-12-06 16:00:04, Muhummad-Oli wrote:
@benjijk:
Very true. But governments are slowly starting to realise they have to stop being selfish. Cars like the Prius, in some countries, are discounted to the public by the government. And governments have been giving car manufacturers money to develop new fuels and new technology for years now.
I think the Hydrogen route is one where the governments can still make money, because Hydrogen will still have to be sold at the pump, so it can be taxed.
You've got a point there Muhammad, but what I was saying is that they will not let the consumer get to the point of independence. The Prius still needs gas, and many others like it. And I'm sure the govt will have some sort of deal worked out. The same with hydrogen fuel. You're still dependent on them. There are technologies out there by which you can run independently like the example with the car running on compressed air. But these will hardly or maybe never see the light of day. I'm sure some countries will definitely put these on the streets, but there are power and money hungry countries like the US that won't let it happen, not for a long time. Or maybe until oil runs dry. Well in that case we'll see another one. I wonder what will happen when Saudi and Kuwait declare a shortage of oil. More wars?
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Posted: 2007-12-06 22:07:45
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