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As i see it, the only really innovativ handsets se has provided to the industry are the t68i and the p800.
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Posted: 2002-12-18 19:40:00
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To hell with choices! I want everyone to have only one phone model for 10 years. Then we can eliminate the problem with people spending to much money on mobile phones. :-)
No more crying about which phone is better.
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Posted: 2002-12-18 19:47:00
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Whereas nokia has been innovative providing devices such as; 5110, 6110, 7110, 3210,...... 7650, the communicator etc... I'm sure i've left out some between the 3210 and 7650.... But there's of course loads of things i don't like about nokia as well... For one, they hurry their releases which results in bugs(8310, 7210).
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Posted: 2002-12-18 19:55:00
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On 2002-12-18 19:55, Raven wrote:
Whereas nokia has been innovative providing devices such as; 5110, 6110, 7110, 3210,...... 7650, the communicator etc... I'm sure i've left out some between the 3210 and 7650.... But there's of course loads of things i don't like about nokia as well... For one, they hurry their releases which results in bugs(8310, 7210).
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I don't want to say that I dislike Nokia in principle, I was very satisfied with my N6150 for several years, but the Nokia-attack-of-the-clowns has escalated from circa 2000 and at the same time has their innovativeness decreased IMHO.
Motorola introduced GPRS and Java well before Nokia
and Ericsson came first with touch screen, bluetooth and color screens, relative Nokia.
And Ericssons attachable extras like radio, mp3, camera,
etcetera do I think they introduced before (N) built in these extras in some of their phones.
7110 was first with the then somewhat overhyped WAP, but WAP was not really usable until the introduction of GPRS...
/H
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Posted: 2002-12-18 20:09:00
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Well..... What are the motorola models you are talking about here? I've had a lot of different mobile phones from -95, and i can say that the only one i've ever had any real problems with was a motorola(star tack or something). I've tried some of motorolas newer models as well, and i haven't found anything resembling innovative about them. IMHO motorola is the worst cell phone manufacturer ever!
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Posted: 2002-12-18 20:28:00
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Yes, you can choose between lots of different Nokia models, and I understand that this is very good for Nokia. But the fact is that it's actually not a choice of phone, it is a choice of how the phone looks. All the phones are almost identical except for looks. So for people who wants something more than just looks, Nokia doesn't give them any choices. None of the phones (except 7650, which I don't count as a "phone") have the choice of any advanced features, they are all the same.
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Posted: 2002-12-18 21:20:00
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On 2002-12-18 20:28, Raven wrote:
Well..... What are the motorola models you are talking about here?
I'm talking about the Motorola Timeport 260 which had GPRS, even if it was just a stop-gap solution. It was a slightly updated older phone (the P-7389 methinks) and quite honestly horrid...
The other device I'm talking about is the Accompli 008 with GPRS, Java and touch screen (you can still buy it) from the first half of 2001, I quite liked it. At the same time did they develop a color device (clam shell) with a full keyboard, think V100 with better design and color, GPRS etc. This communicator was called Accompli 009 and was later withdrawn (severely underpowered, bad battery time but otherwise not all bad)
In my experience are the (M) devices not half bad from a technical standpoint, but they usually have the user interface from hell (008, 009 were much better in this, they were usable)
All phones can have technical problems, and I'm not going to criticise any brand on this especially as I have broken three (3) T68's in a little over a year... But still if I should buy a new phone it would be a SE T68i, it's still the best device for my demands.
/H
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Posted: 2002-12-18 21:33:00
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well... when you go to buy whatever, for example.... box of chocolates! you choose, for example Guyllian! Well... you have a lot of boxes to choose from, a lot of different designs.. but INSIDE! it's all the same!
well.. that's the same with Nokia. I don't think it's bad to have different designed phones even if they are all the same inside!!! I think it's good, and I thinks it's a wise strategy!!! If SE would have picked the yours beloved T68i and presented it with 1 or 2 more designs they surely would have sold more! because not everyone likes the same design!
This is how I choose a phone! 1st the looks of it! and them I'll go for the features!!! Of course... if it doens't have the features I want, I won't buy it!! But I'd really like to be able to choose among a few designs from the brand I like best and I trust, in order to get the one I consider to be the "beautiful one" and with that features I need!
How can someone say they don't like this scenario??? I honestly don't understand and I think you guys are just bored because
can't do more with their so "advanced" technology!!!!
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Posted: 2002-12-19 05:18:00
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i love guyllian chocos!!
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Posted: 2002-12-19 06:11:00
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@ faca
May I say about your precious Nokia that it has sadly failed to give its consumers new innovation, but has given them 'same old shit, with new covercases' which is in my opinion, the stupidest policy a large profitable company can ever make in its life.
I hereby want to explain to you the meaning of the term 'new product', it is a product which is currently not available unless followed by R&D (Research and Developement) and I think that Nokia only R&D its outer covers NOT the whole product. And this makes the 'same old shit' look better and much more brilliant, unlike the features which remains the same.
I believe that you will be willing to spend your pennies on some TOTALLY NEW PRODUCT not TOTALLY NEW COVERCASE!!. And one more thing, we got used to your disagreeing in everything we post about Nokia, so 'whoever understands my points logically' please reply to this post...
Thanx!
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Posted: 2002-12-19 08:30:00
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