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It depends really. In low light situations, the aperture on the T650/K770 is so small, its forced to increase the exposure to get a bright enough shot which ends up blurring easily. The K800's lens is larger so it doesn't have as much of a problem.

But the real reason I feel the T650/K770 takes better shots is because of less noise reduction. The K800 ends up making fine details look pretty bad. The K650 does a better job at preserving those details, allowing for better looking shots when viewed at 100%. Observe:



Its not the best example, but it should demonstrate what i'm talking about. The T650i is on the left. K800 on the right. Notice how on the K800, the ground has lost most of its detail and looks more like a "smear". Its especially apparent in the bottom of the shot in the whitish area. The noise reduction has removed all the little white specs! Look closely at the tire in the background. The T650i retains all the detail, but the K800 throws a lot of it away.

With that said, the T650i's shot is overall softer, due to a poorer lens compared to the K800.
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Posted: 2008-01-19 21:04:49
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A low light crop viewed at 100% size.




And finally, a nighttime shot taken by me on my T650i last night:




Totally untouched except for 50% resize.
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Posted: 2008-01-19 21:10:27
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this is the only picture by t650 who i seen who looks so good...they usually looks quite bad...like this
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=153035#post2069987

k850 take nearly allways ten times better pics then t650..thats for sure...
about this t650 picture, what can i say...its a lucky shoot......when i see the rest of t650 pictures, i dont see one single pic like this.
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-01-19 20:17 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-19 21:13:26
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You mean bad pictures like this?



or this?



or this?



or this?



A lot of the pictures taken in that thread were posted by me and look quite excellent. Low light shots will look very blurry if not kept steady, but bright day pics look great.

As for the K850 taking 10x better pics... well I just demonstrated how in some ways the T650i takes better pics than the K800 above. Since the K850 isn't much of an improvement over the K800 (and in some ways worse), I don't see how your argument is valid. But please feel free to show some shots taken by the K850i at 100% view (don't upload to esato).
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Posted: 2008-01-19 21:31:18
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he he he..but someone said that t650 was better then both k850 & imobile902 (or something)...sweet dreams.

even k800/k810 take quite much sharper/better pics then T650/K770....

like i said, just look at the T650 thread and you see what i mean...
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=153035&start=30

and YES, the snowlift picture is the only pic ive seen with t650 who have that quality.
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-01-19 20:42 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-19 21:39:07
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You're obviously not reading. The 4 pictures I just posted ARE taken from the thread you are referring to. You are basically pointing me to great looking pictures taken by the T650i.
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Posted: 2008-01-19 21:44:19
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plank and crappy k850 again

t650 have better colors then k800 and k850

k850 always sucks at full size that is sad reality




yep when you edit in PS

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[ This Message was edited by: Vipera ammodytes on 2008-01-19 20:52 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-19 21:50:07
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your right the t650 lens isn't as good as the k800i's, the reason the t650 pics are some much clear is because in the driver the whitebalance is turned off, it produces clear better pictures because most the time on the k800i the whitebalance gets it wrong and applies too much yellow and pics sometimes get cloudy.
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Posted: 2008-01-19 21:57:55
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Have a look here:
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_k770-review-168p4.php

The K810 pictures look far better IMO.
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Posted: 2008-01-19 23:41:43
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he he he..Vipera must have some screw lose...of course T650 take worse pics then k850 and k810/k800...to say something else is just silly.

yes you can get lucky shoots with T650, but look inside the T650 thread, it proves everything.

when a T650 manage this quality, im conviced..
picture directley from the phone......

full size..

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9206/dsc03435tp8.jpg

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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-01-19 23:37 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-20 00:24:24
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