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were really committed in the long term to UIQ (in whatever form) would they be releasing WM phones into their line up? I admit to being a cynic but Sony have a long history of swapping formats at the drop of a hat, I for one am not betting on UIQ being around for too long. But I am sure its nice news for those who are interested in this sort of thing.
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Posted: 2008-03-27 14:16:27
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Right,
What Nokia showed as it's touch interface in a demo,
was rather poor and not encouraging. Absolutely not convincing.
But they will definately improve that, make it best they can and have many good ideas about it,
but it's not really existing yet (on the market) and it's no to so soon it will be launched,
and maybe it was a mistake....
Every new idea is challenging though and we can be sure SE/UIQ sees that and reacts for that.
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Posted: 2008-03-27 14:25:06
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On 2008-03-27 13:46:20, Boinng wrote:
You don't think that developments like S60 with touch support, and increased choice in smartphone platforms from the likes of Android and the Iphone, are a challenge to UIQ?
I don't. Not until it proves itself to be 1. as stable. 2. as secure. 3. as scaleable. 4. as customiseable. 5. as efficient. and 6. as developer- friendly (and then I don't mean for hackers, but for actual developers).
I've said it before - but if SE supported these units, and ensured they were properly tested (and positioned for people who actually use the phones) - it would be no question what sort of /platform/ would be the best one at the market.
And as you say - that a platform with no HSDPA phones, no high- end processors, no in- built gps, etc, etc, can still manage to survive, that certainly means something. We just disagree on what, I suppose.
These things aren't in the distant future, most of them are going to happen this year - probably long before any significant new UIQ model appears.
Nevertheless - it's not here, and it might very well be a "dream". And we know next to nothing about the capabilities and the way it's structured, or how easy it would be to actually develop less than a complete program- suite for it. And those are important things, when you consider a platform to develop on.
Just look at S60 Touch. It's a hammerblow to UIQ.
Sadly, no. Set aside the fact that we haven't actually seen the tech on anything except concept- animations so far - it sets out to implement the scrolling- functions in s60 with finger- touch. I.e, mapping up/down and push on the d-pad to finger- movement. Anything else would have to be implemented separately, and break backwards against other s60 phones. In other words, what it does is to introduce the s60 users to touch, not entice wm or UIQ users to s60. (As much as I would love that to be the case, since it might actually give SE a reason to get their asses in gear).
Nokia could royally screw up the whole interface (they won't) and it would still make UIQ look redundant.
The m600 /looked/ redundant.
I can't stand S60, I know little about Android, I'm not interested in the Iphone, and I spent four solid years being completely faithful to UIQ - but I can still see that the platform's in big trouble, and posters like you have your heads so deep into the sand it's unreal!
Well - try an s60 unit for a while. And be amazed to see what the hype is about. That experience still makes me laugh inside, at least, whenever I encounter a "quirk" in UIQ.. "ooh, s60 is the best symbian, the most bleeding edge.." - I wish. Oh, how I wish that was the case.
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Posted: 2008-03-27 14:33:41
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“The Last breath before death”
A great sample of (Sony/Nokia) Marketing … mistake.
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Posted: 2008-03-27 14:53:49
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i was just browsing the new features and i like this very much:
Opera Widgets: Opera widgets run on UIQ 3.3, offering the user direct access to content and opening up for new mobile services
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Posted: 2008-03-27 14:56:55
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no shit. If they spent a fraction of the sum spent on pr and Macworld- sniffing analysts..
I mean, let's take the iPhod - no commercial stunts, little or no pr, no "ambassadors" or tennis- stars. And it still became a bestseller. Now why is that? Does it have something to do with that the product actually is good, and did what the customers expected of it? Was it because it didn't scream (too loudly anyway) of unrealised potential?
Or was it because of some magic happening in the market that had to do with exposure, positioning, timing, and lack of competition? Hardly. It just was a good product (that of course - to everyone's astounding suprise - does not instantly escape over to the iPoon).
But hey - let's buy ourselves another few hours with a tennis- star. #¤%&
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Posted: 2008-03-27 15:06:17
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You think UIQ 3.3 is finger friendly, nothing on the website, but I guess if it was it would be mentioned in the press release. Another nice thing about it is itsmated to v9.3 symbian, so a few RAM issues should be solved. Hope the implementation of the OS is on a processor greater than 200 mhz
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Posted: 2008-03-27 15:10:28
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When there is plenty of RAM, there are no RAM issues, be it on uiq3.0 or uiq 3.3
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Posted: 2008-03-27 15:12:26
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@ares,
Agreed, but thats not a permanent solution now is it
. Thats a very primitive solution
, not what you'd accept from equipment you're going to be paying > 300 pounds for
. We like our phones perfect, and this will bring us that one step closer.
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Posted: 2008-03-27 15:24:49
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@Nipsen
When you say
"I don't. Not until it proves itself to be 1. as stable. 2. as secure. 3. as scaleable. 4. as customiseable. 5. as efficient. and 6. as developer- friendly (and then I don't mean for hackers, but for actual developers)."
Just how much of that can actually be applied to SE/UIQ then seeing as every UIQ Device so far up to and including the P1 and W960 has carried forward known bugs.
You are right it is far to early to judge S60 Touch UI one way or the other as it has not been seen properly yet, but what we do know is that most if not all existing S60 apps will work on it so that completely removes the question point 6 makes.
This announcement can only be seen as a positive as at least it show progress but if the rumors are true and SE announce devices with greatly improved processors, HSDPA and all round better spec's in May. Just when does anyone think we will actually see these devices launched late this year or early next year?
Marc
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Posted: 2008-03-27 16:05:22
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