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That is strange, if all charger work with the k750 and m600 you would expect to work with the w880 but if it isn't working since day one, you are still under warrenty aren't you? Maybe you can get a replacment?
I think what i will do is continue using it for a while and if i see no improvment i'll phone up either SE / operator or someone who i can hold liable and then start throwing in sales of goods acts and not fit for use as intended at them until i get a replacement
I am not all that fussed as of now because for the next month i'm at the PC almost 24/7 last resort i'll use USB power to charge the phone.
But still if anyone can help that would be great, it kinda sucks having a phone which cant charge via the mains.
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Posted: 2008-04-08 16:23:29
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It could be the charging contact point on your P1, as the actual point of contact is very small due to the blade like nature of the pins on the charger. Another charger may make contact in a slightly different place, and so work properly.
I'd check that the contact plates on thephone are clean (try using a pencil eraser), and then look at the pins on the charger to see if any are slightly bent.
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Posted: 2008-04-08 16:28:48
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I just looked at the receipt and I see that I've had this phone for four months. Plus, I bought it through ebay from a store in Hong Kong. Actually, I bought at the same time as my M600 and they shipped together. So I'm not sure I'll have much much exchanging this for a different phone, but I guess it's worth an email.
Oh, what I was going to say: since the w880 is not symbian, and i seem to have the same problem here with it as you have, I suspect that the charging issue is not related to the symbian o/s,
The G900 is looking pretty good at this point.
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Posted: 2008-04-08 16:52:41
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just wondering guys is it advisable to use a SE charger from a different phone on the p1, e.g. if i got a k800 charger or a k750 or basically any other sony model within the last few years would that charger still be alright for the p1?
I'm a bit concerened about voltages and different battery sizes dont want to fry my p1.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 13:57:15
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The problem is with the battery wall socket adapter. Try moving the wall socket adapter and the phone will charge again.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 14:39:05
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@5nak3
If you're concerned about voltages, then just look at the labels on the chargers themselves to see if the output matches. Also check the curent delivery - measured in 'ma' against the one you're replacing. If it's equal or higher on the replacement, then thats ok, but if it's lower then this might cause the replacement charger to be overrun/cause it to heat up eccessively/possibly burn out.
@chlee
Unless the pins are arcing inside the socket (easily observed by scorch marks on the charger's pins), I can't see how this can cause an issue, particularly due to the fact that he'll probably move it to another socket on the same ring main.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 14:49:55
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well i moved the charger to a socket on another floor of the house so it isn't the socket
I might look in trying to get my grubby hands on a k800 charger, my mate just upgraded to a viewty so his k800 is no longer being used. Other then that i'll just wiggle teh cable about until it decides to charge.
On the plus side i'm just happy it isn't the phone that is at fault.
@AD
I got a w810i charger here, which is model number CST-60, the p1 has a CST-70 model number, just compared the numbers:
CST-60:
Input: 100-240VAC~70mA 50-60Hz
Output: 4.9VDC === 450 mA
the CST-70 on the other hand:
Input: 100-240V ~ 50-60Hz 150mA
Output: 4.9V === 700mA
Now i'm no electrician but they dont seem to be delivering the same power, it would seem that the CST-60 is lower powered and therefore no good for the p1 from what you stated above. Could you just please clarify that for me. Thanks
Since i now also have the p1 charger model number, i guess the SE website will tell me what otehr phones use it, and i can track one down if i know someone with a phone using that charger.
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:01:53
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@5nak3
You are correct, the replacement charger isn't up to the job unfortunately - it may well work for a while as safety tollerances are built into any electronic components, but I fear it would fail eventually.
EDIT: Just noticed the input current - double for the P1's charger - I wouldn't even bother trying!!
[ This Message was edited by: AD on 2008-04-09 14:18 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:15:49
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ok thanks, funnily though if you log onto SE's website and search for the CST-60 charger under the compatible phones section they list the p1 there.
I sure this just means "the p1 will connect / work with the charger" as opposed to "the CST-60 can be used in the long run as a replacement for the p1's original charger"
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Posted: 2008-04-09 15:40:37
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Hmmm - interesting, it could be that the management of the charging process (within the phone) is cleverer than I'd supposed, and that the CST-60 would be fine, just slower. Without explicit information though, it's impossible to tell.
I still think the safest bet is to get a replacement CST-70......
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Posted: 2008-04-09 16:31:20
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