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On 2008-04-29 00:15:17, BobaFett wrote:
if it comes to support, then symbian rules, thats fact. just check how many apps and support u have for uiq and how many for symbian os...
As far as I know, UIQ is just the interface that Sony Ericsson (and Motorola) uses in their smartphones based on Symbian OS. Both P1i and N95 uses Symbian OS (different versions tought). Maybe you're refering to S60??
I'd recommend P1 'cause TS, and as kradcliffe said "each to their own"
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Posted: 2008-04-29 08:23:21
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I'm sorry but i fail to see a comparison here. N95-8GB single handedly beats P1 in everything. The only thing P1 has going for it is the touch screen. In everything else it falls drastically short of N95.
Slow CPU, bad camera, bad video, no video acceleration, no GPS, small screen, small application base, mediocre music player, average music quality, bad speakers, and no EDGE, no HSDPA.
Wow, its actually more inferior than i previously thought it was.
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Posted: 2008-04-29 09:26:35
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The interface on the P1 (with both touchscreen and excellent qwerty) is light years ahead of the N95 or any other S60 phone, and that makes up for many of its other shortcomings. On paper the N95 is technically ahead in some areas, and certainly the GPS and HSDPA could be killer features if you need those things, but for general, practical smartphone use I'd pick a P1. It's got better battery life, it's quite business like for work, and its just easier to actually do stuff on it.
Having said all that, personally I rejected both phones and went with a Windows Mobile toting Tytn II instead, which has the best of both phones and knocks them both into a cocked hat.
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Posted: 2008-04-29 09:46:40
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But i heard that the TyTN-II is missing its graphics drivers or something, and that it aint great at video playback.
@ PW
If you enjoyed your P990 and preferd the Touchscreen and QWERTY then rather get a P1, i'd take a N95-8gb any day, couldn't careless for a Touchscreen.
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Posted: 2008-04-29 10:05:55
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@Boinng
Really so the P1 is better than any S60 is it are you sure about that as personally i think that's plain rubbish. My E90 destroys it on all but having a Touchscreen everything and i mean everything else it destroys it on and has many technologies not even found on the P1 With it's full QWERTY Keyboard not some cut down version, HSDPA, 3.2 mega pixel camera with great pictures, VGA video recording, Flash support in the browser, Web Runtime Widgets, 4" 16 million colour screen, 1500aMh Li-Polymer battery, Safari browser over Opera, and vast array of both free and paid for apps. Oh yes i really should of got a P1 as that really makes sense what was i thinking.
But back to the original poster you really can't compare a Multimedia smart phone with a Business smart phone, Either wait for the soon to be released E71 or look at some of the other E Series devices or even wait for the next UIQ announcement and arrival of devices if for you a Touch Screen is vital. As IMO however great the P1 may be it really is missing far to much tech for device this late in 2008.
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Posted: 2008-04-29 11:24:29
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On 2008-04-29 11:24:29, Dogmann wrote:
Really so the P1 is better than any S60
Yes it is. The combination of touchscreen with qwerty is unbeatable as an interface, and the better the interface, the more you can actually achieve with the device.
S60 is severely crippled in comparison, regardless of the paper specs.
is it are you sure about that
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as personally i think that's plain rubbish.
I know you do, and you know I disagree with you on that.
My E90 destroys it on all but having a Touchscreen everything and i mean everything else it destroys it on
No, it really, really doesn't. Your E90 doesn't "destroy" anything. We're all still here, the earth hasn't moved, and the P1 (and much of the rest of the competition) is still standing - in fact it's the E90 that looks pretty limp in the marketplace right now. It's a poor design that should have had a touchscreen, and more appropriate software support to boot - as it is, it's just the unloved, stunted child of the once great Communicator line.
and has many technologies not even found on the P1 With it's full QWERTY Keyboard not some cut down version,
The P1's keyboard design is excellent, and a brilliant use of space. The E90's is simply no better than it should be, given the impact it has on the device's size and overall design. There's always a balance to be had, and many would argue that the P1 gets closer.
HSDPA, 3.2 mega pixel camera with great pictures, VGA video recording, Flash support in the browser, Web Runtime Widgets, 4" 16 million colour screen, 1500aMh Li-Polymer battery, Safari browser over Opera, and vast array of both free and paid for apps. Oh yes i really should of got a P1 as that really makes sense what was i thinking.
If you wanted a slim, pocketable, useable business device with all the essentials then yes, you should have got a P1. If you wanted a list of specs to copy and paste onto forums like this, then you appear to have chosen well with the E90 - but I still wouldn't touch it with yours. And I don't even have a P1.
Of course, this thread isn't really about why on god's earth you saddled yourself with an E90, and you've probably tried to justify it to yourself enough times already, so maybe we should stick to the N95 vs. P1 comparison this thread actually started with.
But back to the original poster you really can't compare a Multimedia smart phone with a Business smart phone, Either wait for the soon to be released E71 or look at some of the other E Series devices or even wait for the next UIQ announcement and arrival of devices if for you a Touch Screen is vital. As IMO however great the P1 may be it really is missing far to much tech for device this late in 2008.
That's actually reasonable advice, except that of course you can compare a multimedia smart phone with a business smart phone if you're not sure which you want, and it appears that's exactly what the OP is doing. I suggest that since the N95 (with all its multimedia charms) hasn't impressed, it's probably more the business minded, practical side that appeals to the OP - and for that, the P1 is a reasonable (and very economic) match. I'd encourage him to check out some Windows Mobile devices though, like the up and coming Xperia X1, which combine much of that same functionality with more recent tech such as HSDPA etc.
I don't hold out much hope for future UIQ devices, since those announced seem pretty low-rent in comparison to the P1, and anything else is a long, long way off release.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-04-29 11:31 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-29 12:24:39
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On 2008-04-29 10:05:55, GUCCI.011 wrote:
But i heard that the TyTN-II is missing its graphics drivers or something, and that it aint great at video playback.
That's its one achilles heel, yep - HTC skimped on a couple of drivers and as a result the video playback isn't great (though it's fine if you optimise it). It's only QVGA anyway though, so if amazing video support is a priority you're probably better off with an Iphone or somesuch.
I still enjoy full screen Youtube vids (from the "proper" youtube site, not mobile) which is something I never managed with a UIQ phone - it's fine for fluff like that.
In every other respect it's the dog's, IMHO, and it'll take something amazing (and probably Windows Mobile based) to make me part with it.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-04-29 11:52 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-29 12:37:45
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@boinng
P1 doesnt have a QWERTY keypad.
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Posted: 2008-04-29 14:02:35
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On 2008-04-29 14:02:35, QVGA wrote:
@boinng
P1 doesnt have a QWERTY keypad.
@QVGA, yes it does, and a very fine one at that.
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Posted: 2008-04-29 14:05:13
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maybe he meant it doesn't have a FULL qwerty keyboard. Personally i dont mind the P1's keyboard and as mentioned i already use it almost everyday for long word documents without a problem.
Regarding the E90, as nice a phone as it may be (never had the pleasure / displeasure of using one) the major thing that puts me as well as most likely many other people is the size. Same with the O2 Exec when it was doing the rounds.
These devices maybe great powerful devices capable of a number of functions. But the issue is mostly with their size.
In as far as th OP is concerned, what is the reason you do not like the N95. More information would mean a better response from users. But it also matters what you need and what you want from a phone.
Let me explain, if you need it to be pocket friendly, then the E90 no matter of its bells and whistles it may as well be ignored at once.
If you want a 5mp camera then sure look at the phones with a 5mp camera first, however since you want and do not need the 5mp camera then options are greater as you can consider 3mp camera phones instead.
Also in as far as comparing a media and business phone goes, i think that while they both may excel at different things, on the whole they both can play mp3's, take photos, play video etc...
I am happy with my P1, it does what i need it to do. It has all my needs (qwerty, pocket friendly size and i'm talking about front jean pocket not breifcase pocket or jacket pocket, word/excel/powerpoint capabilities, email on the move) while still covering my wants such as video, mp3, and camera when i want these functions.
As i said more information from the OP would help us determine what is best for him.
[ This Message was edited by: 5nak3 on 2008-04-29 13:18 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-29 14:15:51
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