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Paul in LA,
K660i way more than I need and want to spend this time 'round, but thanks.
Seems like the (upcoming?) low-end K and T series is where the magic might be this time 'round. And no crappy joysticks. None in shops or online here, tho. I guess some waiting is in order.
What do you consider a low end phone? The K660i is about as low as you can get in features and price. Anything lower will come with a string and can.
[ This Message was edited by: Paul in LA on 2008-05-18 17:22 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-18 18:22:21
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On 2008-05-18 18:22:21, Paul in LA wrote:
What do you consider a low end phone? The K660i is about as low as you can get in features and price. Anything lower will come with a string and can.
Paul,
That phone is $250 to $300 Australian dollars, bought outright (I don't use contracts/plans, I buy the phone outright and use prepaid credits, so no price is disguised this way). The K660i is also a 3G phone which I don't use. It is filled with features I would never make use of in everday life and frankly would never pay for, especially if it goes south the same way my K500i did.
The price I am after is 100ish. I don't think it's asking too much, coz the fact is every manufacturer makes phones in this price bracket with the features I want (which are very basic). When I buy a phone I expect to have it at least 4 years...I don't change them like people change underwear. They are tools to get the job done. SMS. Phone. Contacts. Appointments. PC connectivity. The basics.
I can appreciate I'm not a 'phone enthusiast' like most people here, but c'mon, that phone is far from low-end, unless our definitions of low-end are totally different. I would class it as a mainstream phone. I am not gonna pay the equivalent of a PSP for a crappy phone, excuse the french. I have my walkman for audio...I have my PSP for gaming. All I need is a basic phone with the requirements I set out earlier in this thread.
I just wish some of those lower-end phones would be available soon because right now SE are pretty much ignoring the low-end here.
Cheers.
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Posted: 2008-05-19 03:44:30
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On 2008-05-19 03:44:30, vlotnet wrote:
On 2008-05-18 18:22:21, Paul in LA wrote:
What do you consider a low end phone? The K660i is about as low as you can get in features and price. Anything lower will come with a string and can.
Paul,
That phone is $250 to $300 Australian dollars, bought outright (I don't use contracts/plans, I buy the phone outright and use prepaid credits, so no price is disguised this way). The K660i is also a 3G phone which I don't use. It is filled with features I would never make use of in everday life and frankly would never pay for, especially if it goes south the same way my K500i did.
The price I am after is 100ish. I don't think it's asking too much, coz the fact is every manufacturer makes phones in this price bracket with the features I want (which are very basic). When I buy a phone I expect to have it at least 4 years...I don't change them like people change underwear. They are tools to get the job done. SMS. Phone. Contacts. Appointments. PC connectivity. The basics.
I can appreciate I'm not a 'phone enthusiast' like most people here, but c'mon, that phone is far from low-end, unless our definitions of low-end are totally different. I would class it as a mainstream phone. I am not gonna pay the equivalent of a PSP for a crappy phone, excuse the french. I have my walkman for audio...I have my PSP for gaming. All I need is a basic phone with the requirements I set out earlier in this thread.
I just wish some of those lower-end phones would be available soon because right now SE are pretty much ignoring the low-end here.
Cheers.
Well the phone is $215 US (which is about $225 AU). That's about as low end as you can get in price. You certainly aren't paying extra $ for the 3G as almost every new phone has 3G these days. Low end included. How many new phones under $200 without a contract are there? Not many I'd wager.
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Posted: 2008-05-19 04:44:27
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Paul,
With all due respect you are coming across as a phone enthusiast or a salesperson to me, without taking into account my NEEDS.
1) Double the price I'm willing to pay.
2) Double (?) the features I'm would use.
3) A straight currency conversion isn't always accurate (people have to eat, others have to deliver). As I say 250 to 300 here.
4) 3G. Happy with 2G thanks. Countless useless features I can do without, thanks.
5) Your low-end is clearly not what the phone companies call low-end. Heaps of 'tin can' phones selling for 100ish, thanks.
6) The phones Teknoboi90 mentioned are low-end phones that seem to meet my needs perfectly. Nokia has others. Motorola has others. They rarely stray too far away from 100 dollars. Meet my needs perfectly, tho I prefer SE's interface.
Put simply:
Useless features I should pay for, why? Exactly. I'll wait for some of the low-end phones to reach more widespread availability. Case closed?
We can argue about what's low-end until we're blue in the face. We clearly have different needs and uses, and you can never convince me that phone is low-end. Sorry.
Thanks for your contributions tho.
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Posted: 2008-05-19 05:06:52
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On 2008-05-19 05:06:52, vlotnet wrote:
Paul,
With all due respect you are coming across as a phone enthusiast or a salesperson to me, without taking into account my NEEDS.
1) Double the price I'm willing to pay.
2) Double (?) the features I'm would use.
3) A straight currency conversion isn't always accurate (people have to eat, others have to deliver). As I say 250 to 300 here.
4) 3G. Happy with 2G thanks. Countless useless features I can do without, thanks.
5) Your low-end is clearly not what the phone companies call low-end. Heaps of 'tin can' phones selling for 100ish, thanks.
6) The phones Teknoboi90 mentioned are low-end phones that seem to meet my needs perfectly. Nokia has others. Motorola has others. They rarely stray too far away from 100 dollars. Meet my needs perfectly, tho I prefer SE's interface.
Put simply:
Useless features I should pay for, why? Exactly. I'll wait for some of the low-end phones to reach more widespread availability. Case closed?
We can argue about what's low-end until we're blue in the face. We clearly have different needs and uses, and you can never convince me that phone is low-end. Sorry.
Thanks for your contributions tho.
Okie dokie.
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Posted: 2008-05-19 05:26:03
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For anyone still following this thread, just found out the T270 and T280 will allow charging via USB, but transferring files is only Bluetooth (according to gsmarena). No cable option for transfer of data.
There goes SE's low-end to me.
Gonna take a serious look at Nokia's budget line now.
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Posted: 2008-05-20 06:08:05
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Nokia low end (100AUD) have even less support for data transfer.
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Posted: 2008-05-20 13:05:20
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On 2008-05-20 06:08:05, vlotnet wrote:
For anyone still following this thread, just found out the T270 and T280 will allow charging via USB, but transferring files is only Bluetooth (according to gsmarena). No cable option for transfer of data.
There goes SE's low-end to me.
Gonna take a serious look at Nokia's budget line now.
If it has a USB cable, then it you will be able to transfer files via USB. Simple as that.
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Posted: 2008-05-20 13:11:58
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not always. I've come across phones (never an SE though as far as I know) where the cable is only for syncing calander contacts etc, but doesn't support file transfer.
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Posted: 2008-05-20 15:03:29
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@ vlotnet
Here is the SE dot com dot AU webpage for the DCU-60 USB cable showing all the aussie phones that are compatible with it. They all look pretty pricey...
http://www.sonyericsson.com/c[....]es/overview/dcu-60?cc=au&lc=en
And here is the Complete SE worldwide portfolio to choose from:
http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/corporate/products/phoneportfolio
Hope this helps!
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Posted: 2008-05-20 15:36:52
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