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Miss UK Posts: > 500

You definatley would if you were me

btw @ all many handsets today are coming out now tha the same features will be around by 2010/11 trying to keep upto date is mad,

especially when the only thing on offer is a 8MP Camera on board,
if you lot have 5MP phones then wait till after and save your money cos I dunno what to expect personally!

larger Jpegs? pfft!
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Posted: 2008-07-01 01:23:45
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Brightspark Posts: 326

@ori
using your crystal ball and/or mushrooms, when will sony disassociate themselves from ericsson so that they can try to run SE by themselves? afterall, ericsson was just a vehicle to help sony gain some presence in the mobile world.
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Posted: 2008-07-01 03:32:27
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carkitter Posts: > 500


On 2008-06-30 20:06:43, ori wrote:
By 2011 we should have a seamless compatibly between pc standards and things on the mobile phone, this may probably mean the native usage of pc applications on the mobile phones. Most interesting part is the future of PC, this however may take up to ten years or even more, yet I believe that would be the most probable way or PC evolution, basically there is no need to have a calculating performance in every single device yet to have it in one place (your virtual hub) and just transmit the results to the client devices, virtually you can have a PC running any application you want and just manipulate it via the mobile device. SO this is not promised yet we should get closer to it in the next generation...

Sounds alot like Microsoft Exchange which Apple have used to create MobileMe for the iPhone and other Wifi devices on your network. It's already here...
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Posted: 2008-07-01 05:17:22
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ori Posts: 396

It is MobileMe, and yet it is not, first it is a paid service and it is delivered by one company (Apple), yet the actual system should be open standard and work free of charge, imagine you want an e-mail box and then to check it from your mail application and sometimes from web interface, same should be applied to Mobile Me in terms of freedom of choice, penetration, finally mobile me is thinking inside the box (I however agree that it is a big thing), why? Because you can not install aps you need into mobile me, some people already decided what you need, that is wrong, the whole thing should be natively connected into one environment, probably this may happen thanks to google’s android, first devices emerge this year, first balanced in 2009, than the work on mistakes will be done, and we have a new breed of devices in late 2010 and of course 2011.
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Posted: 2008-07-01 11:36:36
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F-Lexx Posts: 163


On 2008-06-30 20:06:43, ori wrote:
I have two crystal balls, and lots of mushrooms that give me that special gift to see the future.



I want some shroomies too!...

Btw, did you take the unified Symbian platform into account? They should be shipping the first devices in 2009.
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Posted: 2008-07-01 12:13:24
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Twometre Posts: > 500

@Ori you just made a long post and its not easy to follow up.
Can you edit it a bit or write it in point format please for the benefit of those who browse from mobiles
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Posted: 2008-07-01 12:22:09
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ori Posts: 396

Now that’s a hard task… however the good thing is that the post itself is completely senseless

I did took Symbian and developments like openmoko into account, and by the way Symbian should go open in 2010, basically what is required the most is a) 100% standardized web browser (you can install any plug-ins and updates all the same way as on PC), awareness of mobile devices accessing web in the same or even in more numbers than usual home users, and speed access from everywhere, altogether will bring new experience. Now we don’t have any of these in full sense, plus we shouldn’t forget the battery life / sometimes performance issues, in 2011, I hope we have e-paper (color, high frame rate), and from performance point it should be possible to run windows (non mobile versions) on normal size mobile phone, however I hope we wouldn’t need it. Moreover the mobile phone should be recognized data storage / creation device so printing and file exchange should become standard and as easy as possible.

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Posted: 2008-07-01 12:56:39
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Yakkaimono Posts: 425


On 2008-07-01 12:13:24, F-Lexx wrote:

Btw, did you take the unified Symbian platform into account? They should be shipping the first devices in 2009.


Sadly the first devices with the new os will hit the market in second half (with luck maybe the first) of 2010 and not 2009.

[ This Message was edited by: Yakkaimono on 2008-07-01 11:58 ]
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Posted: 2008-07-01 12:57:25
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carkitter Posts: > 500


On 2008-07-01 12:56:39, ori wrote:
... basically what is required the most is a) 100% standardized web browser ...

But we don't have 100% standardised web browser on PC platform. As well as IE6/IE7 there's Opera, Firefox, Safari... and more competition has meant better features and simpler browsing. I don't want to go back to the days of one browser for everyone.


On 2008-07-01 12:56:39, ori wrote:
...Moreover the mobile phone should be recognized data storage / creation device so printing and file exchange should become standard and as easy as possible.

Within the constraints of size, features and market positioning. As a keen owner of feature phones exclusively, I don't want to be forced into a Qwerty keyboard or Smartphone Apps that I won't use.
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Posted: 2008-07-02 10:56:02
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ori Posts: 396

Standardized browser is not one solution for everything it is many solutions that share same standards completely, we as a design studio when developing web sited do adapt our solution so it will be rendered the same way on every PC available browser, it takes additional time yet it is minor, same should be applicable for mobile devices.

I also may agree that specific devices where phone function will be at highest priority probably will continue to emerge in very low-end market and in luxury.

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Posted: 2008-07-02 16:18:18
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