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if seem so,with their so called cybershot phone which do not fit the bill.SE dragging Sony image to the ground.How a non consumer electronics linked company like Nokia can release better camera phones with Carl-Zeiss lens,16Mill colour screens,all in one smartphone and so on completely amazes me.Even LG has an impressive 5MP camera phone with 120FS video recording.What's going on?
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Posted: 2008-07-20 09:45:03
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SE is doomed, we're all doomed. Judgment day is near. Brace thy self
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Posted: 2008-07-20 10:03:57
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On 2008-07-20 09:25:35, jcwhite_uk wrote:
are doomed as they dont make a phone with everything that I want! I want 8mp camera with af and xenon flash, vga screen, 80gb hard drive, gps, tv tuner, satellite dish and tea maker in a phone smaller than a W880i.
Not too much to expect is it?!
lolz... i need that phone but with coffee maker.... ...
why do you think
does not build a phone with very, very, very good cam, video and sound? Take one sony home theater audio, one sony video/digital cam, sony bravia and smart phone then wrap them together... lolz jz kidding..... peace...
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Posted: 2008-07-20 10:10:28
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Worse of all, what will happen to Esato when SE's flame totally burns out?
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Posted: 2008-07-20 11:04:48
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Eldar yeh...hhhhmmmmm. seems he should wake up a bit...he talking about different sensors, etc... who even not excist.
i take his words quite easy now days
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Posted: 2008-07-20 11:08:31
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Imo the reason SE got themselves in a knot is because they failed to listen to those who put them up there, us the consumers. The word 'arrogant' would best describe this problem. They've detached on the ground consumers like us from their sales and marketing plan and attached paid 3rd party agents for assessment and feedback. Of course, there are some details in the specs race that are questionable like 120 fps 16m colours which seem unnecessary, But ignoring a lot of other reasonable specs in premium devices like 30fps VGA recording, 3.5mm jack etc are just blatant disregard of their competition
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Posted: 2008-07-20 12:29:28
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i think its their outlook on the market which has caused them problems.
Not so long ago i read something from Eldar. it went something like....
has the most innovative technologies. but they dont use it because they think the market will reject it.
thats the problem right there.....
running a business involves taking risks. you NEED to take risks, even if they dont pay off. but not all will fail.
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Posted: 2008-07-20 12:36:59
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On 2008-07-20 02:23:49, Rookwise wrote:
I agree. More and more people who I know that would stay with
handsets are now starting to look at others (myself included).
There seems to be compatibility problems with
handsets and
accessories which is causing problems as well (particularly the A200 platform). Build quality is starting to get worse with noisy housings and paintwork/finish coming off easily.
+1
In local shops, when I ask about SE models, they tell me they will get less and less as they have become aware they are not sold as before.Some models like w890, neve reached some of the most important "mobile" shops here in Bcn.And believe me, the w910 and w580 returns did not help. The w760 has not been seen except online. Real shops have all newest Nokias and even Samsungs, cheaper and cheaper offers every moths of super brand new ones. Not SE, expensive and never offers.T-650 never seen either in real shops here
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Posted: 2008-07-20 12:46:52
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They good news is, hope Dicky the new SE Ceo can help up SE after Flints big miss.. It will take month or maybe 1 year.. give it time.. 2009 will be good year for SE.. SE is very little i the world but SE is still no1 in Sweden, after all.. and that won't be change in future..
If you don't like these phones, then don't buy them no one makes you do to it..
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Posted: 2008-07-20 12:51:37
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Well, I see PG speaking some Sense - nice one Plank.
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