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Posted: 2008-08-11 00:22:54
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Your TV are not free and BBC CNN and other are FULL FREE

http://edition.cnn.com
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Should the international community intervene in the fighting in Georgia?
Yes--------------------------------------84% 31075
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[ This Message was edited by: iva_se on 2008-08-10 23:29 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-11 00:26:59
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The Georgian PM is Bush's ass licker

he is like

"help us ....we are free...we are democracy....russians are too strong for us....they want to take our freedom...US supports freedom and democracy so please Mr.Bush...my boss...please help us I will do anything ...i want to join nato and lick more of the west's ass "


fyi : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRl3qArJO-o
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Posted: 2008-08-11 00:40:23
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Firstly, do not always believe in what is shown in the media. Georgian TV will show their side while Russian TV show the other and forget whats on Western TV; everyone has their own agenda.

No country wants a war (except the USA) so you have to get the facts first. I don't know what is happening, some of you will know better than me but who owns the region at the moment and does Georgia have the right to reclaim it? Why does Georgia want this land now and is it worth fighting over?

I know many people who are from Palestine and Iraq and their stories will make anyone cry. You lose one person in your family and you are devestated so how do you think people feel after losing everyone; mum, dad, kids, broters, sisters, friends etc.? The bastards sending the troops don't realise the reality of what they are doing, so the reasons for war should be very good (none of this WMD sh*t).

People should cool down and start to put some facts together so that we can have a constructive arguement. Those in the know, put the facts on the table.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 00:50:59
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BIG THANK YOU!!!
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Posted: 2008-08-11 00:59:12
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http://tvali.ge/index.php?action=watch&v=24615
PLAY VIDEO

[ This Message was edited by: iva_se on 2008-08-11 00:05 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-11 01:04:40
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Living close to the area, I want to give a perspective on how this whole mess is seen based on media information.
First of all, Georgia is supposed to have a total of 7 or 9 airplanes, so there is no way to compare them to Russia's military strength.
The Russian claim is that the Georgians started bombing and destroying the capital of Osetya causing a great number of civilian casualties, most of whom are said to be Russian citizens. Osetya has been an autonomous region and a part of Georgia. There are videos going around showing the devastation from the bombing, but who bombed is an entirely different story, there is probably no reliable way to find that out.
It's obvious that Russia can crush the Georgian military as well as any local power such as Ukraine that stands in its way, so the question is why did this start.
Anyone following recent political developments will probably have a pretty good idea why the Middle East and now the Caucasus is in deep trouble.
I believe the source of the problem is the fact that the US has been trying to create regions of influence that are too close to Russia for their comfort.
If you had asked me 20 years ago, I would have said that this is a good thing but having seen the policies of the Bush dynasty, the US seems to mess up everywhere they go.
If you look on the surface, the US represents democracy and freedom but if you look a little deeper you see that they actually represent money and all their policy is based on pleasing the money owners. I know that even in the US, intellectuals are not happy with this situation. The fact that US foreign policy sucks does not help them either, in 20 years the ratio of people sympathetic to the US has gone down from 85% to 15% in Turkey, one of their longest and strongest allies in this region.
So it's obvious that the main reason under this dispute is the fact that Georgia had become too much under the influence of the US and Russia had to break this. There is nothing anyone can do, don't think that either the US or the EU will lift a finger to help any of these countries.
The Turkish TV said that about 30,000 Georgians have crossed over to Turkey in fear of their lives. Personally, I am sympathetic to the Georgians and I wish them the best of luck in resolving this situation, they will need it.
Looking at this from Russia's side, they naturally want to protect their interests and their citizens. So how different is this from the US invading Iraq? It's sad but the fact of life is, unless you are strong enough to defend yourself don't expect any help from others, the neighborhood bully is always right. Others will pump you up and then leave you out to dry when things get thorny.
My deepest sympathies and condolences to those great number of civilians killed by whichever side.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 03:20:16
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Its really funny. Looks like "Oh my God, i killed the man, help me! OOOOh i killed another one!
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Posted: 2008-08-11 07:22:06
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f**k YOUR NATION!!!
SOON WE TAKE VENGEANCE!!!
GEORGIA NEVER BE PARTS OF THE MOTHERf**kEN RUSSIA

According to the data of August 11, 2008, over 50 Russian fighter jets are flying across the airspace of Georgia.
Earlier today the capital city of Georgia has been bombed. Shells hit Makhata Mountain and Kojori brigade base. Russia attacks Georgia in spite of the fact that the foreign minister of Finland - Alexander Stubb and the foreign minister of France – Bernard Kushner are on official visit in Tbilisi.
Georgian troops have been withdrawn from the conflict zone and Georgia has declared unilateral cease-fire, despite Russian Federation attacks the whole territory of Georgia.
International community should take extreme measures to stop Russia.
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Posted: 2008-08-11 07:51:55
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http://interpressnews.ge/index.php?lang_id=ENG&sec_id=10150
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Posted: 2008-08-11 07:56:34
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