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No, Nokia have too large marketshare to be beaten by samsung at their own game.
The only way samsung can beat Nokia is to actually have better cheaper phones with a clear marketing edge over Nokia - regardless of what OS they use.
If they do this, for long enough, they could theoretically beat Nokia and become number one in marketshare. Even if it were to happen it would take several years imho.
The same applies to SE. No phone OEM is anywhere near beating Nokia in marketshare. Nokia is to the mobile phone industry what Microsoft is to the computer industry. Apple might make a better OS, but the fact is Windows is now a mature OS, has broad application support and a huge installed base compared to Apple. Nothing is going to change overnight.
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Posted: 2008-09-21 09:12:50
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Bit more detail captured from a post on our site.
http://forum2.mobile-review.c[....]ost.php?p=736471&postcount=786
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Posted: 2008-09-21 09:31:15
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Nokia has still the greatest offering on all departments, not to mention that they flooded the market with phones that satisfy the price-features ratio. nokia have lots of all-in-one phones unlike samsung (which imo were only three: the i900, innov8 and G810)
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Posted: 2008-09-21 09:34:42
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At the top-end, Nokia have zilch at the moment, just rehashed N95 derivatives.
In global terms, it's the Nokia logo on giveaway handsets in places like the US and India that gives them such a big market share.
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Posted: 2008-09-21 09:41:53
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On 2008-09-21 09:34:42, razec wrote:
Nokia has still the greatest offering on all departments, not to mention that they flooded the market with phones that satisfy the price-features ratio. nokia have lots of all-in-one phones unlike samsung (which imo were only three: the i900, innov8 and G810)
all in one, but sans touchscreen
In the current world of iphone-esque clones a touchscreen is de rigueur for an all-in-one
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Posted: 2008-09-21 10:30:18
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On 2008-09-21 09:12:50, max_wedge wrote:
No, Nokia have too large marketshare to be beaten by samsung at their own game.
The only way samsung can beat Nokia is to actually have better cheaper phones with a clear marketing edge over Nokia - regardless of what OS they use.
If they do this, for long enough, they could theoretically beat Nokia and become number one in marketshare. Even if it were to happen it would take several years imho.
The same applies to SE. No phone OEM is anywhere near beating Nokia in marketshare. Nokia is to the mobile phone industry what Microsoft is to the computer industry. Apple might make a better OS, but the fact is Windows is now a mature OS, has broad application support and a huge installed base compared to Apple. Nothing is going to change overnight.
My thinking exactly!
Speaking of market share, RIM has started eating into Symbian. I'll try and find that link on Engadget and post it over here.
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Posted: 2008-09-21 11:04:21
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On 2008-09-21 11:04:21, EMS06 wrote:
My thinking exactly!
Speaking of market share, RIM has started eating into Symbian. I'll try and find that link on Engadget and post it over here.
You mean this one?
^^ I found that quite interesting too.
On 2008-09-21 10:30:18, max_wedge wrote:
all in one, but sans touchscreen
In the current world of iphone-esque clones a touchscreen is de rigueur for an all-in-one
Quite right Max. Of course, touchscreen formats are just flavour of the month, but it is still the most exciting development in mobiles for years, opening up several new paths. (I know touchscreen has been around forever, but not as mainstream as it is now)
Just look at Phones4U's Top Ten Pay Monthly:
4 out of 10 are touchscreen! If Samsung can really release a phone the likes of the M8800, it would
own the market, I'm sure!
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Posted: 2008-09-21 20:22:33
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Thanks marty! That's the one, I actually forgot about my promise.
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Posted: 2008-09-21 20:30:07
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On 2008-09-21 10:30:18, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-09-21 09:34:42, razec wrote:
Nokia has still the greatest offering on all departments, not to mention that they flooded the market with phones that satisfy the price-features ratio. nokia have lots of all-in-one phones unlike samsung (which imo were only three: the i900, innov8 and G810)
all in one, but sans touchscreen
In the current world of iphone-esque clones a touchscreen is de rigueur for an all-in-one
Don't get me wrong mate. I didn't like nokia phones as well, i like samsung phones for they managed to balance the design-features ratio. No nokia all-in-one-sans-touchscreen offerings made me drool over their designs except the 2 new e-series (i may not consider them all-in-one as well since they TS which is imo essential for a business oriented device and no i'm not talking about E75 and E72 here - another rehash)
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Posted: 2008-09-23 05:14:55
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Nah, it's fair enough. If you leave touchscreen out of it, Nokia do make some great all in ones.
I'm just being facetious - it's the mario's and mibs who seem to be blind to touchscreens. They think touchscreens are a dead technology so I bring it up as much as possible, just in the hope of getting a bite from one of those guys!
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Posted: 2008-09-24 03:32:40
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