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Surely there's everything to upgrade to - after all the iPhone's only got a 2MP camera, no MMS etc, so virtually anything on the market is an upgrade, isn't it?

Or do you admit that there's something more to the iPhone than just the arbitrary specs you mention?



You're missing the point completely - the features the iPhone is missing are exactly those that you'd find on one of those cheaper handsets, but they're features that most iPhone users have chosen to sacrifice in return for all the unique benefits of the iPhone - which no cheaper handset could replace.



Some will if they're nearing the end of their contract, but don't forget that all iPhone users will be getting an upgrade in the form of OS3 - probably a much more significant improvement to our phones than the K850 was over your K800 for example, except we don't have to pay for it or take out a new contract. So no, it's not quite as simple as you're suggesting.



This thread is about the "iPhone" but we're both using that term to describe the current iPhone 3G and the previous original iPhone, right? Which pretty well sums up the point that the iPhone is something more than just the next model to be released, it's relevance (in the context of this thread) is down to the platform, userbase, and eco-system, not just the next shiny phone.
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Posted: 2009-03-30 18:26:47
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Excuse me while I doubt that
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Posted: 2009-03-30 18:30:37
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There is plenty to upgrade to from an Iphone that will carry out all of its tasks better, but of course, people who buy and use the I phone wouldnt be interested in WM devices, so there is no point in mentioning them.

You only have nothing to upgrade to because you are loyal to your brand, like when I had the K850i and wouldnt get an N95 instead because at the time I thought 'ewww, Nokia'.

But if I really wanted something like the Iphone during the duration of my last 18 months on contract, I would have much rather bought an X1 Xperia or HTC Touch Pro instead.

I just had to wait untill the end of my contract before being able to get such a phone, but oh wait, I get the LG Arena now which is far beyond what the Iphone is capable of.

And no, I couldnt ever be happy without copy and paste, expandable memory and a removable battery, anything without those is not revolutionary, but is a backward and out of date device.
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Posted: 2009-03-30 18:36:51
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Your choice to be ignorant then and refuse to realise that a basic £150 handset can do ALMOST everything the Iphone can, except for having a big shiny touch screen with a great UI.


You just need to know how to use your phone without having everything spoon fed to you by Apples download services.

The things I currently miss like flash and adobe and full youtube streaming (I have to slowly load videos one by one, but I can watch them, and use google maps and blogs too) will all be on the Arena.

And I am happy with internet use everyday on my T700, I never needed a deficient product like the I phone for my daily mobile internet use, nor would I ever consider leaving T mobile for O2 because mobile internet is too important to me to make such a ridiculous decision.

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Posted: 2009-03-30 18:39:58
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Your points really make little sense, it's like you're repeating arguments you've heard elsewhere without really understanding them. Why wouldn't "people who buy iPhones" be interested in WM devices? Because of some irrational prejudice? Because they're not "people who buy WM devices"?

Let me help you - there are two good reasons why I wouldn't "upgrade" to a Windows Mobile" device. Firstly, I'm satisfied with the iPhone and will be even more satisfied with the feature-complete OS3. Secondly, I used a WM device full time for a year before I got the iPhone, I know WM6.1 inside and out, and I can tell you categorically that neither the WM os or the eco-system and apps available for it are a patch on the iPhone experience. That will be doubly true when iPhone OS3 goes head to head with the pathetic WM6.5.



No, exactly the opposite situation, I've no interest in upgrading because I'm happy with the phone I have now. It's not prejudice against other brands or even a particular loyalty to Apple (the iPhone is the first and only Apple product I've owned) it's simply the knowledge, borne mostly from experience, that I'm using the best product out there. And it's fantastic.



And you'd have ended up with one of two run of the mill Winmo phones that was nothing like the iPhone.

Just to get back on topic for a moment, you'll notice that this isn't a "why is the xperia x1 still so relevant" thread.



I've no doubt that you've chosen the phone you deserve
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Posted: 2009-03-30 23:15:39
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I know someone with an iphone its rubbish. Yes its got great interface and applications so what. It cant even work as a phone very well the signal strength and call quality are poor. Bluetooth is useless. Other phones out there offer far more and do it better imo.
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Posted: 2009-03-31 00:58:00
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That is the thing, I agree that the iPhone is not the best (other than the UI) but it remains a formidable force on the market and with the upcoming updates it is bound to remain even longer.

Anyway, my conclusion really is that most of the people that adore it are Americans who have not come into contact with the finer stuff from LG, , Samsung and Nokia.

I mean the camera is chump change, the bluetooth is nothing that inspires, oh gosh.
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Posted: 2009-03-31 03:01:15
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Is anyone really "inspired" by their Bluetooth stack?

I'm not an American, I've seen and used the competition, I'm not blind to the iPhone's weak points or the particular strengths of others in comparison, but for me the iPhone is still head and shoulders above the rest in a number of key areas (ease of use, multimedia and gaming abilities, speed, app/developer support and eco-system, manufacturer support in the form of ongoing updates, reliability, hardware quality), and nobody else has begun to challenge that complete package.

For the record, call and signal quality are perfect on my iPhone, and easily the equal of the SE's I've had in the past.
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Posted: 2009-03-31 08:27:25
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Boinng, your continuous I phone worshipping is just and useless to us as critisizing the rubbish thing is to you and other fans of the device.

I could get and use an I phone and would still find it to be worse then my T700 based on how I use my phone, what exactly is your point to such fanboyism and dedication to a phone made by apple?

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Posted: 2009-03-31 09:13:41
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Bhavv, it's telling that you're descending into insults quite so early in the debate. This thread is about the relevance of the iPhone, something which the OP obviously recognises (if not understands) and which many others can relate to, and all I'm doing is offering up some explanations for that. Your contribution simply smacks of denial, and incomprehension of the subject matter.

I'm glad that you and your mum are happy with your T700. I wouldn't say a word against the T700. But it is not, and can not be, a replacement for the complete package that is the iPhone.
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Posted: 2009-03-31 10:26:10
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