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Just got the LG Renoir, a very good phone. The flash is more usable than people think, although if its top priority look at nokia N82 or C905. My last SE was the K800 and i love the Renoir so dont assume you wont like it!
Plank dont assume before actually using LG. I was very mislead until i got the Renoir.
[ This Message was edited by: soane28 on 2009-04-21 23:46 ]
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Posted: 2009-04-22 00:44:53
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On 2009-04-21 22:25:09, Pitzon wrote:
Itīs hard to like drive your car and type an sms at the same time because you have to look at the phone when typing.
shouldn't you be looking at AND concentrating on the road when you're driving?
On 2009-04-20 18:26:52, iG012 wrote:
I couldn't find any LG forum so i posted it here!!!
Tnx!!
try here:
http://www.mygreatphone.com/forum/lg-forum/
it seems to have originally started out as a viewty forum, but has since expanded to other models (including thhe renoir). the viewty forum there is evry comprehensive when it comes to do with modding. it's what i used to mod everything on my viewty
[ This Message was edited by: Brightspark on 2009-04-22 00:15 ]
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Posted: 2009-04-22 01:10:15
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There's nothing mmore I can add that hasn't already been said. I've owned (and still own) the C905 and the Renoir and the Renoir is the one I use everyday as it's the most stable phone out of the two. Besides a decent camera (the xenon flash on the Renoir is not as bad as people make out imo) I needed a stable bluetooth connection that doesn't randomally drop while on a call via a bluetooth handsfree and also a half decent calander (would have hoped for a calander like what was found on the UIQ

's ) and again the Renoir has both of these over the C905.
Agreed the touchscreen can be annoying at times especially in landscape mode where the QWERTY touchpad buttons are a bit small to use without the stylus. The packaged screen protector was useless and scratched very easily so that went in the bin and I bought a much better one from Expert Shield.
I have 2 official cases for the Renoir. Namely the CCL-250 and the CCL-240. Both protect the phone very well and each have their advantages (phone can still be used while in the CCL-250 but no room for the stylus.CCL-250 does also add slightly to the size and the camera can be fiddly to open. Phone cannot be used while in the CCL-240 as its a pouch type but there is a stylus holder built onto the pouch)
I also have the LG SDT-110 desk stand and again it a very good accessory made to fit the Renoir only. Theres a bracket on the underside to fit the desk stand to a tripod, inputs on the rear for charging/USB cable/TV out etc.
Music player on the Renoir isn't as good as on the C905 as there is not equiliser on the Renoir and music sounds a little flat via the standard speakers. A way to overcome this is to buy a bluetooth stereo headset that has an equiliser built in. I bought the LG HBS-250 and it has a lot of features that my

HBH-DS220 hasn't got and also sounds a lot better even with my

T700 and C905.
Everything else is basically the same on both phones. Just the interface that is different.
I've been an

only for the last 7 years but I found the Renoir very easy to learn, set up and use. Even debranding it was easy (thanks to help from -PERFECT- )
Oh yeah. The Renoir also comes with an 8GB memory card as standard in the box
Another bonus.
[ This Message was edited by: Rookwise on 2009-04-22 01:22 ]
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Posted: 2009-04-22 02:18:03
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another reason that now used to make me think of buying Renoir is the QWERTY keyboard when in landscape mode... but according to Roodwise it isn't as useful as I thought.... is that right?
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Posted: 2009-04-22 04:01:35
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qwerty is quite difficult without stylus yes. I use the standard keypad as its much quicker and painless. Music player is simple, but the quality is great IMO. You at least have the option to change headphones out of the box.
I was deciding the exact same thing between Renoir and C905 and im glad i gave Renoir a shot first.
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Posted: 2009-04-22 07:12:16
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On 2009-04-22 01:10:15, Brightspark wrote:
On 2009-04-21 22:25:09, Pitzon wrote:
Itīs hard to like drive your car and type an sms at the same time because you have to look at the phone when typing.
shouldn't you be looking at AND concentrating on the road when you're driving?
Ofcourse you should. But im so skilled these days that i can type without looking at the phone and keep my eyes on the road. I dont do this much but i could if i want. Lets flip the question and try to type an sms with a touchphone when you are out walking or sailing or something like that. Whatever you do it will never be as easy like with a phone who has real buttons.
And in the Renoirs case if you reply to an sms one "button" changes to "send" down left. I sent many sms by mistake just by accidently press that one. Very frustrating.
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Posted: 2009-04-22 07:22:35
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On 2009-04-22 07:22:35, Pitzon wrote:
Ofcourse you should. But im so skilled these days that i can type without looking at the phone and keep my eyes on the road. I dont do this much but i could if i want.
Funny how this was
in the news just recently.
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Posted: 2009-04-22 07:54:07
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There you see, you shouldnīt use touchphone
I hope you get what i meant with this. I mean adjusting the temperature on the ac, change radio station or something like that isīnt worse than for me typing an sms when i dont have to look at the phone while doing it.
[ This Message was edited by: Pitzon on 2009-04-22 07:10 ]
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Posted: 2009-04-22 08:05:30
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Perfect. im judging my quote about BAD auto settings on this comparison you posted (i mean half posted...he he)...
of 15 pics, Secret was better on JUST 3 pics, the rest there was C902 often WAY better...thats pretty BAD auto settings on such high end phone man.
and like also SAID, i think Renoir sometimes looks better in daylight then c905, (but it need a bit mork with the camera settings, even this who have Renoir says so, so it cant be some lies)
edit.
so my vote still goes for a Gold c905...better auto camera, MUCH better UI (LG is hardly famous for their stable, splendid UIs), etc.
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2009-04-22 08:33 ]
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Posted: 2009-04-22 08:16:32
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You barely need to change the settings on the Renoir to get good results. If anything all you need is to decrease exposure.
LGs UI is stable! I havent had a single reboot or failure yet. Try the Renoir for yourself first before stating such things.
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Posted: 2009-04-22 10:24:54
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