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I think this is the key issue of the matter as SloopJohnB said "The other companies hasn't release a phone that got the same 'attention' and 'mindshare' of the iphone yet"

It's the success of Apple in grabbing the collective consciousness and desire of consumers in the smartphone market that has been most impressive and will, above all else, carry the next iPhone through, at least the next iteration...but as EMS06 said I can see that customers enthusiasm for the iPhone will likely wane if no new features are introduced, after all, current iPhone owners are going to have access to the 3.0 which will provide most of the new features...

So why upgrade? A larger hard drive? Faster processor? Better camera? OLED screen? Glowing Apple logo? - I'm failing to see why I should do it....perhaps when the iPhone 4 comes round!!
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Posted: 2009-05-31 14:25:00
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hey........... you people didnt get to realise the APPLE power or what???
they never have got the BEST things in market, but they surely have got the HOTTEST ones...

what made the iPhone a huge, and i repeat HUGE success, is that the phone was a style-statement, with superb touch interface... slim, very cliche.... and the pricing was the biggest factor for its success.... mind you, its the youth that buyed that phone, and most of them bought it even when it didnt have so many things like a great cam, some known issues like messaging, copy-cut, etc etc
no other smart-phone user has bought an iphone......
its all multimedia users who love the iphone...
i dont think apple will capture the market with just one model, the most they would do is remain at number three...
which is enough for a single model i think....

again when apple realeases v3.0, the same kind of people are gonna buy the iphone...
so it wont be a market dominance,, but it wont receive all that hype and hoolah that had the first iphone..

the iphone was all the rage because it was the rays of a new era of interface and user control...
but now its quite back, people arent all that hyped about an iphone..

sure they'll buy and all, but it isnt that hot as it used to be,
unless apple decided to just fill in so many features with a price that other companies wont be able to beat for the next five years [the true iphone did just that], then i beilive the iphone will have rejuvinated itself..
and knowing apple, if theyh do it, it wont be a surprise???
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Posted: 2009-05-31 15:44:32
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Only significant change it will get is a 3.2MP camera magnetic compass and some other whoolah.
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Posted: 2009-05-31 15:49:26
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The perspective is you failed your point with this post since Nokia is the one dominating the SP-market. The OP failed also because the URL clearly shows who is nr 1. It's like in the PC market, Mac can grow with 4000% and still be nothing compared to Windows Dominance. Don't confuse growth with market share.

No one claimed that iPod is not a success -because it is a huge one. Just that Apple is not dominating tha smartphone market ;]
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Posted: 2009-06-01 14:18:08
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Apple is completely dominant in the smartphone market right now because it's produced a device, and an OS that people actually love to use and develop for. 1 billion app downloads in less than a year don't lie.

Let's be honest here, S60 is top of the list above because Nokia sell a lot of phones, and they happen to use S60 as the base for many if not most of them - it's been that way for many years. Want a Nokia phone with the best camera? Whoops, you just bought S60 and you didn't even know it. Are you going to start buying lots of S60 apps now? No, of course you aren't. Aside from a minority of phone geeks in places like this, nobody ever bought an S60 phone because it was S60, they bought it for the features and the UI and OS were entirely secondary - why not, when the UI is essentially S40 with bells on anyway?

In second place you have RIM, the corporate favourite. They deserve to be there, they've made the enterprise space theirs by making mobile business email easy for employees and it managers alike, but let's not pretend that the majority of those blackberry users don't have their phone for work, not play. It's a shackle that's been issued to them by the company, not something they've chosen, or would choose to make more use of.

So then in third place we have Apple, only its users have not only chosen the phone/device themselves, they're also using that smartphone OS. they're downloading apps, writing their own apps, and generally extending their phone's functionality endlessly. User satisfaction surveys place the iphone tops, app sales and development are through the roof, and they're only two years and two nearly identical models in. Tell me again who's dominant in the smartphone market?

The next model will be a winner partly because of the feature improvements (expect video recording to be heavily marketed) and partly because the new OS3 will plug many of the percieved feature gaps that have kept some away. But mostly it will be a success because of the ever improving apps that will become even stronger over the coming year, as developers make use of the new SDK. And the fact that so much of this will still be available to existing users through the OS update for current iphone's is just another of the massive strengths of the platform.

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Posted: 2009-06-01 23:20:13
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@ se-love , aint all that whoolaa is what we get exited about. And nag about cause its never enough.
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Posted: 2009-06-02 00:00:39
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You can twist and turn it as u like but the fact is the only market the iPhone might be dominating right now is the one over at AT&T...
Maybe one year from now it will dominate worldwide but it isn't doing that right now.

And you know what, I know lots of people that got the iPhone just because they see it as status symbol and not because it's a smarthphone. The generalisation you do of "Nokia people" can also be made for "iPhone people"...
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Posted: 2009-06-02 01:15:41
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Well said, It pees me off the way people try to claim as FACT that the iPhone has dominated the smart phone market, and conveniently forget a little company called....Nokia!
The iPhone has so many faults it's ludicrous, yes it has a flashy interface but it will NEVER dominate the worldwide smartphone market.
I know PLENTY of people that can afford an iPhone but they choose not to buy it because it doesn't interest them or they don't like it.
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Posted: 2009-06-02 01:34:01
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Right, so is it a Nokia phone that every manufacturer has been trying to copy and catch up with for the last two years? Is it the Nokia appstore that Android, RIM, Windows Mobile, and Nokia themselves are desperately trying to ape? It's no surprise to see Nokia's growth stagnating at 0.8% year on year in a time when overall smartphone use is growing - and wait, who's leapt up 245% in the same period?

You can try and claim that iPhone users simply buy iPhones as status trinkets, but the problem for Nokia and the rest is that the figures prove those same users actually go on to download apps, and invest in the iphone ecosystem - and every app sale just encourages more and better apps from more developers, and more of those users to stick with Apple for their next phone.

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Posted: 2009-06-02 08:27:14
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What he said ^^^

Half of all mobile phone browsing is done on an iPhone. Those S60 devices are being bought as expensive trinkets not the high-powered mobile computers Nokia intended.
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Posted: 2009-06-02 10:30:42
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