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Ok take sea level rises for instance. I have already done this test. Have you ever noticed when you put ice cubes in a cold drink? When they melt in the drink does the amount of water in the glass suddenly over spill the top? No. Never seen it happen so the ice caps melting probably wont raise sea levels imo. Forests are being chopped down but they are being protected too & its a vital source for soaking up CO2. Also peat & bog you see in the countryside that also soaks up CO2 believe it or not. We have had the hottest dryest summers then wettest ones on record in our lifetime. Whats changed its probably happened years brfore our time too because the earth has a natural cycle of weather patterns since time began. Nothing we can do to stop that. Just as we cant stop earthquakes tornados hurricanes man cant stop these things its mother nature. The earth changes all the time for all we know the next ice age could happen soon nobody really knows but our level of pollution cannot be reversed though yes we can use renewable energy & so called green energy but its not enough to survive on. Correct me if im wrong anyone but its my view
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Posted: 2009-06-05 20:54:46
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The world will not end, we simply will...
Then when things go back to normal organisms will eventually develop and so on.
I do think global warming is an issue but its an issue the GLOBE need to tackle and not single countries with their policies.
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Posted: 2009-06-05 20:58:13
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On 2009-06-05 20:48:59, Brightspark wrote:
On 2009-06-05 20:38:47, thomas93 wrote:
CO2 Emissions in the last 100-200 years have increased extremely dramatically, at the same time the tempreture has been slowly rising. Could be a scary coincidence or the truth. But one things for sure, since 200 (As far back as my accurate recolelctions go) no two years haven been the same weather wise.
temps aren't rising anymore. also, temps started to rise before co2 started to rise BEFORE the industrial revolution. note also that we are only just recovering from the Litle Ice Age.
i see nothing unnatural.
I don't know where you got that information, as it is simply not true!
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Posted: 2009-06-05 21:05:01
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On 2009-06-05 21:05:01, michka wrote:
On 2009-06-05 20:48:59, Brightspark wrote:
On 2009-06-05 20:38:47, thomas93 wrote:
CO2 Emissions in the last 100-200 years have increased extremely dramatically, at the same time the tempreture has been slowly rising. Could be a scary coincidence or the truth. But one things for sure, since 200 (As far back as my accurate recolelctions go) no two years haven been the same weather wise.
temps aren't rising anymore. also, temps started to rise before co2 started to rise BEFORE the industrial revolution. note also that we are only just recovering from the Litle Ice Age.
i see nothing unnatural.
I don't know where you got that information, as it is simply not true!
what part isn't true?
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Posted: 2009-06-05 21:24:53
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That the temp is not rising anymore. It is still rising, slowly but not slowlier than for the past decades, and we can see it by various means like ice melting, very large migrations of several animal species to colder waters and colder land, the increase in the number and intensity of the cyclones, the drop in productivity for the farmer in the center of the US combined with an increase of productivity in Siberia, etc. and of course temp measurements.
Sorry man, but I now have to go out, so see you later.
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Posted: 2009-06-05 21:43:42
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On 2009-06-05 21:43:42, michka wrote:
That the temp is not rising anymore. It is still rising, slowly but not slowlier than for the past decades, and we can see it by various means like ice melting, very large migrations of several animal species to colder waters and colder land, the increase in the number and intensity of the cyclones, the drop in productivity for the farmer in the center of the US combined with an increase of productivity in Siberia, etc. and of course temp measurements.
Sorry man, but I now have to go out, so see you later.
it's not rising. the models said that there would be rapid warming this decade, yet there has been no large volcanic eruptions and it's been cooling in the last decade. the oceans have also been cooling since 2003. see:
http://climatesci.org/2009/05[....]st-weblog-by-william-dipuccio/
you can see the satellite trends here that clearly show that it's been cooling in recent years:
http://rankexploits.com/musin[....]n-to-uah-april-value/#comments
ice is not melting globally. see here:
http://www.meteorologynews.co[....]009/01/globalseaicehistory.jpg
studies claiming that bad weather increases with warming are false:
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Posted: 2009-06-05 22:03:59
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I think its safe to assume the warmer weather will bring with it more hurricanes, typhoons etc. As these only happen in warmer climates.
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Posted: 2009-06-05 22:20:33
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On 2009-06-05 22:20:33, goldenface wrote:
I think its safe to assume the warmer weather will bring with it more hurricanes, typhoons etc. As these only happen in warmer climates.
false. read this.
ftp://texmex.mit.edu/pub/emanuel/PAPERS/Emanuel_etal_2008.pdf
kerry emanual is one of the experts on hurricanes, and he concludes:
"A new technique for deriving hurricane climatologies from global data, applied to climate models, indicates that global warming should reduce the global frequency of hurricanes, though their intensity may increase in some locations."
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Posted: 2009-06-05 22:40:52
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Strangely in the UK I used to see more fierce storms when I was little back in the kate 70s and 80s. Not seen much that bad storm wise since then especially thunder storms. With our weather changing in the UK from time to time the jet stream changes direction. I was 4 years old during the drought of 1976. Since then we have not had many summers like that except a couple of short heat waves in 2003 and 2006. Nothing has changed that much in my experience. Past few 2 years or so since the heatwave of 2006 we seen so much rain here.
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Posted: 2009-06-05 23:12:00
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I hope they're right then. The 23 billions tonnes of CO2 we have been pumping out every year for the best part of a century is bound to have no effect. What about the huge increase in breathing problems, asthma etc. Isn't that good enough reason to find alternative energy sources?
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Posted: 2009-06-05 23:13:22
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