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Not sure what your point is? The article is obviously about smartphone OS stats even if they haven't spelled it out.

The Symbian stats flatter Nokia as browsing stats and app download stats show Symbian users are mostly not smartphone users in the true sense of the word but actually premium feature-phone users. Android and iOS are growing because of the appeal of their App Stores and the extra functionality it brings. RIM and Symbian are flatlining because their appeal lies in other features and their App Stores are less vibrant than others.

I'm waiting to see if Nokia's boardroom changes (another one today - Head of Mobile Solutions) will lead to a tie-up with WP7, which would be good for both companies IMO.

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Posted: 2010-09-13 14:15:48
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@carkitter

My point is that the statement in the title and most of the text in the article is false. Android will not compete with Symbian for No.1 spot in mobile OS market.
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Posted: 2010-09-13 18:03:24
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I guess we shall see. Nokia's sales are slower than the current rate of growth.
Something must be amiss for them to lose both their CEO and Head of Mobile Solutions within a week. It's taken longer to get here because of Nokia's size and resilience but I firmly believe Nokia are now entering the restructuring phase went through a couple of years ago.
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Posted: 2010-09-14 01:58:52
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I'm not saying that Gartner is wrong about their predictions for the next few years, but you should know why "Android soon in second place" has become the headlines these days instead of "Symbian will still be number one".

You should read these previous Android predictions by Gartner. It's quite funny, and very interesting.
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Posted: 2010-09-14 02:34:50
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I agree with that, but it is generally, hence generally, the company that release the most, high quality, Android devices, with fantastic customer service.

Look at , always so many steps behind, people saying the X10 will get 2.2 by christmas, sorry, but the phone was released months ago, and 2.2 isn't exactly new anymore, in fact I wouldn't be suprised if Google was keeping 3.0 Gingerbread quiet, that might be released by then, who knows.

Just my two pence
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Posted: 2010-09-16 18:54:14
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I can't see what Symbian has going for it as a platform which is the same or better than iOS or Android. Nokia's sales in the smartphone market will likely rely on repeat sales from current customers and lack of availabity of iPhone and Android models in some markets. Until Ovi starts getting the sort of patronage that Apple's App Store or Android Marketplace gets, Symbian will be on the decline.

I think it's inevitable that Android will overtake Symbian in smartphone sales.
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Posted: 2010-09-21 04:38:34
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Android is finally mainstream. Who knows if it has the staying power its supposed to have; King of the hill isn't just about getting there but maintaining it: "I'm the One"!

Samsung, not Google, is doing what Apple has and getting better at it with the Galaxy Tab:
TV Show subscriptions
Movie subscriptions
encompassing the above into 1 media solution; shades of iTunes and building for the future.

Samsung has been scorned by Nokia MANY a times over and to be honest I'd be VERY happy if they can finally stick it to the finnish man-dem. Don't get me wrong Symbian is great and has survived doing what Android is doing now - but mostly by Nokia alone pushing the limits until their pockets got fat and they got lazy. This is turning around with N8, E7, C7 but they NEED to announce closer to actually shipping with final & acceptable firmware.

Don't get me started on OVI Store … even RIM is doing better with App World!

Don't be hallowing Google too much … before too long when they got us all too tightly wound around your finger; they'll be no better than Brainiac was to the Kryptons and make us $$pay for it one way or another:
* Google Search - the interconnector
* Google Apps & Docs - mostly free except for corporations (but its their DATA housed on those same servers with crawlers that scour the internet. I can see "leverage" used to arm-bind corporations for patronage or sell-out to their brankruptcy nightmares.
* Gmail, Google Googles, Android OS phones - all ever talking your personal data (me too I have 2 gmail accounts: Exchange being free is sweet & hooked) again to their servers & sold for data mining.
* soon enough - and if you watched season 1 of Galactica; the core explanation of a brain … you'll realize we're not too far off from having a form of Brainiac - doesn't have to be sentient per say but calculating enough to cause major issues to screw us. But hey that's just my foul little mind at work.

Truth be told … drug dealers always give you things for free, a little taste in the start (hard drugs) until you're hooked, don't bother looking for any other suppliers, and soon begin charging you and do you "solids" and come after you when pay time is up! (aka Stewie style ).

Meego or whatever linux Nokia settles on will be the true fighter to Android … but until they find a few major manufacturers willing to trust them again to partner the offering its a proprietary offer to consumers; and we're all learning quickly that just doesn't work: unless it does what we ALL want FAST, reasonably priced, and EASY & works! (Apple).


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Posted: 2010-09-21 05:52:28
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In all honesty I have gone off Android as quick as I got into it. I look forward to the new N8. Android has more annoying problems than anything I ever used I really hate it now
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Posted: 2010-09-21 18:32:32
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Such as ....
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Posted: 2010-09-21 21:06:19
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I feel that way about my iPhone now. Can't wait to upgrade but budget is too tight.
Shortlist is Dell Thunder, Xperia X10 and Nexus One in that order but considering a combination of T700 + iPad also.
I like the features and price of the Vivaz but the Symbian platform is just too limited to consider seriously. At the end of the day I'd be better off with the gorgeous but flawed iPhone 4 than the wannabee Vivaz.

A friend of mine recently replaced his PAYG Nokia N95 8GB with an iPhone 4 on contract. I had a quick look at it and the screen really is breathtaking as is the overall styling. It's one of those 'stare too long at it and you'll end up buying it' type devices just like the iPad (how do Apple do that?!?). The point is that he has now gone from being a wifi only surfer who doesn't recieve mobile email and uses very few symbian apps to a high ARPU customer with 3GB of monthly data to use and using many iOS apps. That's the difference between Android & iOS devices and the plans the come with, and Symbian & WM devices and the way they are percieved.
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Posted: 2010-09-22 01:19:39
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