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Posted: 2011-06-22 17:45:27
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On 2011-06-22 17:38:26, MNX1024 wrote:
I was just about to get this to replace my cycling computer, but after reading the specs, it became a no.
This is suppose to be a sports phone..... A real GPS is expected, not an aGPS. Freaking ridiculous!!!! This is a big mistake on SE's end.
aGPS is GPS + assistance, no ?
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Posted: 2011-06-22 17:52:00
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An A-GPS is a GPS which can make use of the mobile network to find the satellites faster. Some A-GPS devices can function as a standalone GPS as well (if a network is present they use it, if not they revert to plain old GPS functionality).
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-06-22 17:05 ]
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Posted: 2011-06-22 18:04:01
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But no aGPS can get a signal within 10 second like my Garmin Edge 500, therefore it's a no no. Let's just say I do use the mobile network to find signal, I highly doubt the phone can last long enough for me to finish my 100+ mile rides, which can last from 5 to 9 hours depending on the route and distance I take. Therefore the aGPS is useless.
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Posted: 2011-06-22 18:08:14
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On 2011-06-22 18:08:14, MNX1024 wrote:
But no aGPS can get a signal within 10 second like my Garmin Edge 500, therefore it's a no no. Let's just say I do use the mobile network to find signal, I highly doubt the phone can last long enough for me to finish my 100+ mile rides, which can last from 5 to 9 hours depending on the route and distance I take. Therefore the aGPS is useless.
aGPS uses the mobile network to assist in getting an initial lock on your position. Once that initial position is acquired, the GPS positioning lock is active unless reception with GPS satellites is lost.
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Posted: 2011-06-22 19:07:36
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On 2011-06-22 17:38:26, MNX1024 wrote:
I was just about to get this to replace my cycling computer, but after reading the specs, it became a no.
This is suppose to be a sports phone..... A real GPS is expected, not an aGPS. Freaking ridiculous!!!! This is a big mistake on SE's end.
LOL. You get aGPS just by switching on wireless networks (network assisted GPS to get faster lock, hence aGPS), otherwise it's just GPS. In other words, if you have aGPS, you can always turn off the 'a' prefix to simply use GPS. What on earth do you think aGPS means to be so pissed off?
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Posted: 2011-06-22 19:33:20
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On 2011-06-22 19:07:36, lolstebbo wrote:
aGPS uses the mobile network to assist in getting an initial lock on your position. Once that initial position is acquired, the GPS positioning lock is active unless reception with GPS satellites is lost.
Yeah, as a cyclist that rides at 20+ MPH, I don't want to stop to fix a GPS issue, heck most of my group rides are like 23+ MPH. I would be dropped by the time I stop and fix it. Also, this is a marketed as a sports oriented device, why do I , the user, have to spend 5 minutes to get it to work. Whereas I can just turn it on and it would just work without me fiddling with it? With a high sensitivity receiver, I don't have to deal with this whole ordeal.
I do have to admit, this device is great for your everyday joe or recreational jogger who wants to have an all in one device.
[ This Message was edited by: MNX1024 on 2011-06-22 18:37 ]
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Posted: 2011-06-22 19:35:58
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On 2011-06-22 19:35:58, MNX1024 wrote:
On 2011-06-22 19:07:36, lolstebbo wrote:
aGPS uses the mobile network to assist in getting an initial lock on your position. Once that initial position is acquired, the GPS positioning lock is active unless reception with GPS satellites is lost.
Yeah, as a cyclist that rides at 20+ MPH, I don't want to stop to fix a GPS issue, heck most of my group rides are like 23+ MPH. I would be dropped by the time I stop and fix it. Also, this is a marketed as a sports oriented device, why do I , the user, have to spend 5 minutes to get it to work. Whereas I can just turn it on and it would just work without me fiddling with it? With a high sensitivity receiver, I don't have to deal with this whole ordeal.
I do have to admit, this device is great for your everyday joe or recreational jogger who wants to have an all in one device.
[ This Message was edited by: MNX1024 on 2011-06-22 18:37 ]
My X10 GPS (locks in at 2 secs with aGPS) works flawlessly while driving from 55-80+MPH, I'm sure it can take your 20+MPH
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Posted: 2011-06-22 19:41:17
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On 2011-06-22 19:41:17, mode wrote:
On 2011-06-22 19:35:58, MNX1024 wrote:
On 2011-06-22 19:07:36, lolstebbo wrote:
aGPS uses the mobile network to assist in getting an initial lock on your position. Once that initial position is acquired, the GPS positioning lock is active unless reception with GPS satellites is lost.
Yeah, as a cyclist that rides at 20+ MPH, I don't want to stop to fix a GPS issue, heck most of my group rides are like 23+ MPH. I would be dropped by the time I stop and fix it. Also, this is a marketed as a sports oriented device, why do I , the user, have to spend 5 minutes to get it to work. Whereas I can just turn it on and it would just work without me fiddling with it? With a high sensitivity receiver, I don't have to deal with this whole ordeal.
I do have to admit, this device is great for your everyday joe or recreational jogger who wants to have an all in one device.
[ This Message was edited by: MNX1024 on 2011-06-22 18:37 ]
My X10 GPS (locks in at 2 secs with aGPS) works flawlessly while driving from 55-80+MPH, I'm sure it can take your 20+MPH
Has nothing to do with how fast I'm going. I'm just saying the fact that I don't want to stop and in certain situation, I can't stop just to fix something. Therefore a high sensitivity sensor would be a better choice than an aGPS. Instead of taking 15 minute for it to fix on to a signal without data, it can just get a fix within a matter of second. In this case, inorder for me to alleviate this issue, I would have to stop my ride and fix it manually. That takes up my training time.
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Posted: 2011-06-22 19:48:25
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On 2011-06-22 19:48:25, MNX1024 wrote:
Instead of taking 15 minute for it to fix on to a signal without data, it can just get a fix within a matter of second.
In airplane mode i.e. when all data and radio signals (except GPS) is disabled, my X10 takes like 5-10 sec to lock onto satelites. This is because network data is cached locally on the phone, so you do not need constant contact with the network.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2011-06-22 20:29 ]
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Posted: 2011-06-22 21:25:55
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