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Hmm much as i loved Ericsson phones i think Sony could make something good. I also think with good advertising and specs people will notice a Sony phone more than Sony Ericsson.
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Posted: 2011-10-20 00:30:00
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On 2011-10-15 23:47:40, etaab wrote:
Hold your horses. The important bit is this:
On 2011-10-15 01:42:22, laffen wrote:
Net income is 0 and the reason for this is that a 51 million Euro debt to external sources was paid back during the quarter
A company which makes no profit tends not to stay as a company if they keep getting results like this.
Not necessarily. Receiving normal profits (i.e. 0) is not uncommon in very competitive markets. This means that their revenue is exactly equal to the money they've spent on R&D, wages, inputs, etc. The only thing this means is that the company can't really grow that much. The fact that they decided to repay their debts is a good one, IMO. They can afford it atm and it's good to get them out of the way.
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Posted: 2011-10-20 00:57:14
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On 2011-10-20 00:30:00, Bonovox wrote:
Hmm much as i loved Ericsson phones i think Sony could make something good. I also think with good advertising and specs people will notice a Sony phone more than Sony Ericsson.
I beg to differ. My memory of Sony mobile phones of days gone by is that they were not that spectacular. Admittedly that was a while back and Sony might have learnt a thing or two about product design if their Viao laptop series is anything to go by. "Sony Ericsson" as a brand is stronger, and people will notice a Sony Ericsson phone first before a Sony phone - which some people might look at with bewilderment wondering what Sony is doing?
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Posted: 2011-10-20 08:53:24
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On 2011-10-20 08:53:24, Geezay wrote:
On 2011-10-20 00:30:00, Bonovox wrote:
Hmm much as i loved Ericsson phones i think Sony could make something good. I also think with good advertising and specs people will notice a Sony phone more than Sony Ericsson.
I beg to differ. My memory of Sony mobile phones of days gone by is that they were not that spectacular. Admittedly that was a while back and Sony might have learnt a thing or two about product design if their Viao laptop series is anything to go by. "Sony Ericsson" as a brand is stronger, and people will notice a Sony Ericsson phone first before a Sony phone - which some people might look at with bewilderment wondering what Sony is doing?
I would politely disagree
SONY is a much much bigger brand than
as far as brand recognition and perception go. It has consistently ranked among top 5 most popular/preferred global brands. This year in a global survey conducted across all major continents SONY came in second after Google in terms of brand value/preference.
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Posted: 2011-10-20 11:23:15
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On 2011-10-20 11:23:15, randomuser wrote:
On 2011-10-20 08:53:24, Geezay wrote:
On 2011-10-20 00:30:00, Bonovox wrote:
Hmm much as i loved Ericsson phones i think Sony could make something good. I also think with good advertising and specs people will notice a Sony phone more than Sony Ericsson.
I beg to differ. My memory of Sony mobile phones of days gone by is that they were not that spectacular. Admittedly that was a while back and Sony might have learnt a thing or two about product design if their Viao laptop series is anything to go by. "Sony Ericsson" as a brand is stronger, and people will notice a Sony Ericsson phone first before a Sony phone - which some people might look at with bewilderment wondering what Sony is doing?
I would politely disagree
SONY is a much much bigger brand than
as far as brand recognition and perception go. It has consistently ranked among top 5 most popular/preferred global brands. This year in a global survey conducted across all major continents SONY came in second after Google in terms of brand value/preference.
Wow! You are a Sony fan through and through, every thread you post at you exalt Sony so much that they'd be proud to know there still people who love them so much. Nothing wrong with your admiration but we need to strike a good balance between the positives and the negatives.
Geezay makes a good point, you need to read and understand the context. He didn't say Sony was weak or bad but wrote about Sony cell phones.
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Posted: 2011-10-20 11:47:20
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Yes and all i was saying although i love Ericsson. People would recognise Sony on the high street more than Ericsson. Have you noticed how many people refer to their phones as Sony phones and not Sony Ericsson?? Yes it irritates me too but Sony is just more well known. But i do think now they could make some decent phones on their own but despite their brand popularity its still debatable weather they can make it work and bring in the sales again. They need top phones and good promotion.
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Posted: 2011-10-20 12:16:00
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On 2011-10-20 00:57:14, NightBlade wrote:
Not necessarily. Receiving normal profits (i.e. 0) is not uncommon in very competitive markets.
I understand how a business works as i run one. However, from SE's point of view their results are not just a single quarter, a single year, but a string of bad periods with little growth overal compared to their competitors. They wont go out of business overnight by making a loss at the end of the business year, but many companies rely on funding from their shareholders and investors. The point of the business is to make money for the people who fund them. If they consecutively lose money year on year, or make such a small profit that they're unable to grow the people who stump up the cash in the first place lose confidence in the management of the company, grow impatient and buy themselves out. Which in turn forces the company to shrink.
Its all about growth, whereas if Sony quit the game and go it alone without Ericsson, thats simply not growth.
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Posted: 2011-10-20 23:08:34
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@Dups
I did read his post completely and understood the fact that he was talking about cellphones. And my reply was regarding to cellphones not general brand value.
A SONY smartphone will receive much greater attenntion than a
smartphone. Especially in the US market where
has virtually no brand presence.
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Posted: 2011-10-21 05:10:44
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On 2011-10-21 05:10:44, randomuser wrote:
@Dups
I did read his post completely and understood the fact that he was talking about cellphones. And my reply was regarding to cellphones not general brand value.
A SONY smartphone will receive much greater attenntion than a
smartphone. Especially in the US market where
has virtually no brand presence.
Okay. The Sony name does have some wieght in the US no doubt but with all this competition in the form of Apple, Samsung and a Google-owned Motorola, how much inroads are they really going to make in that part of the world? I will give them the chance and see how they do as Sony Mobile but I still not too optimistic. Let's wait and see, shall we?
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Posted: 2011-10-21 06:52:47
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I wonder now if it's Sony or Ericsson behind the latest designs of phones like the Ray now?? Cos seeing the new Sony mp3 player the NWZ A866 it looks alot like the Xperia Ray with the home button
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Posted: 2011-10-22 13:23:19
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