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As I would like a lot of entries, I think we should go all the way. Just tell us what's missing if it's not obvious.
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Posted: 2011-12-03 11:10:56
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I think it would be more fun if the picture tells the story of what is missing ... In my opinion, if you have to "tell us" then you have just done the job your picture was supposed to do

that is just my opinion.... but Ill leave it to each member to decide how they want to approach the matter as to not stifle creativity.

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Posted: 2011-12-03 14:23:36
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@mlife. You're right, if you have to explain your picture, it's not good enough.
So if you want to shoot "missing manners" Do it in a way we can see.
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Posted: 2011-12-04 01:18:39
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Makes it more fun too
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Posted: 2011-12-04 01:26:00
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Posted: 2011-12-05 05:37:40
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Good day everyone,

So, I was thinking, as the rule is "no image editing" for the camera phone shootout, does that necessarily imply apps such as Vignette or Camera360 or the likes of those?
I am personally inclined to say ... yes and no

Yes because the image is no longer a depiction of the reality around us. If that's the aim of the shootout, then it's understandable to not admit such entries.

No because .. well there are more reasons:
- If you want to see photos as a form of art, I think that a black and white or vignette filter can totally amplify the feeling. There are also those "old photo" filters which can make an ordinary scene look extraordinary, just because an old gasoline lamp may look common if simply photographed, but may be striking if you see it with a sepia filter;
- There's also the fact that some native camera apps have more settings than others. Some have black and white shots, some don't (this brings up the question if BW shots are allowed);
- Unlike post processing on the PC, there's no IT knowledge factor involved. You just get a camera app of the market (i haven't found any good ones while i was using Symbian, but maybe there are) and you use the presets. So more people would have access to the exact same presets, it's just a matter of knowing when to use them;

There would also be HDR shots, not really post processing but still it's not the image as it came from the camera sensor. Overall it may bring dynamism to the table, or it may just open the door for arguments between contestant.

One option would be to (if possible and allowed by the third party application) post the original as well as the filtered result.

Penny for your thoughts.

Best regards.
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Posted: 2011-12-05 11:03:45
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Biosx, we had enough discussion about the post-processing of the image whether it is done on pc or in phone itself. So no HDR or anything you mentioned. About the applications, well i dont know about such android app because i dont have any android phone. May someone who has used these application can help but as far as my opinion goes, i would say use your default camera app and shoot within the limitations of it. Many of us are doing so and are greatly overcome the limitations by their splendid efforts.

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Posted: 2011-12-05 11:17:39
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The shootout is, as stated many times before, about the skills of the person not the quality of the camera or it's software.

Post a wobbly shot and call it "missing steady hands"
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Posted: 2011-12-05 12:27:17
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You misspelled my nickname.. it's impolite

I only launched a pertinent question, food for thought if you wish. I may be wrong but your reply seems dismissive.

Anyway, didn't want to get anyone too worked up. It was just a question, i see no reason for replies such as: "don't participate if you don't like it" or "if we can do without, you can do without". That's just silly if you'd ask me. I wasn't trying to change anything, enforce anything, or even imply anything. It was just a question with some arguments. Polite and respectful. I'd sincerely appreciate it if the nature of the replies are at least just as respectful.

And I do have plenty of ideas for this month's theme, it's very well picked and I want to congratulate the author. I was not COMPLAINING nor anything of the likes.

I'm sorry to see that any initiative to engage in on-topic (even if partially) conversation concludes with dismissive answers of the like.

Regards.
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Posted: 2011-12-05 12:30:54
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I think we have a misunderstanding here.
It's always good to think of how to improve this thread. I did think consider the App-filter but I happen to know that there are people out there that use K810 or even older phones. Leaving apps out of this contest gives everybody an equal chance to win. In my opinion the shootout is more about creativity as quality.
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Posted: 2011-12-05 12:46:53
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