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This whole Apple suing debacle on esato is getting pretty tedious. So much so, I didn't want to reply in this thread because all the arguments have been made in other threads and I don't think there is much else to add.
Although yes the patent process is flawed, its obvious why Apple is suing competitors like crazy. Although you'll say it's just Apple protecting what's theirs, why they actually do it is because they know they cannot compete in the market for a sustained period. And its what history tells us, when a company refuses to allow their OS on third party hardware its obvious they cannot sustain growth in any marketplace. Apple know this, so they are trying to sue in the hopeful aim on killing competition or at least gain royalties on the back of other manufactures so they still earn money even when their platform goes to shit.
Anyway I'm going to resist posting in any future Apple discussions, though I probably wont be able to stop myself
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Posted: 2012-02-16 21:09:47
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Etaab it's not that apple are expensive
It's cos of vat tax on everything in the uk
Head over n Look at USA prices on apple website
Big difference
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Posted: 2012-02-16 23:16:45
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Patent wars!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17040699
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Posted: 2012-02-18 17:06:03
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interesting impartial article, but it does somewhat confirm my thoughts that all manufacturers patent any little detail of something they are doing that has been previously gone unpatented, and once granted, they seek to protect those patents.
e.g. why else would google, with their fantastic android o/s, seek to buy motorola mobility? it is largely because motorola have been around so long and do have an enormous patent stockpile that it is worth google owning.
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Posted: 2012-02-18 17:15:26
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Ah I see interesting

yes
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Posted: 2012-02-18 17:22:20
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On 2012-02-18 17:22:20, Bonovox wrote:
Ah I see interesting

yes
so I guess you now have a wider understanding of these issues and don't feel the need to slag off Apple in every such topic? Everyone is protecting their interests, some more publicly and more in the media eye than others... not that I agree with each and every case but these patents are being granted at more and more granular level and by default, thats the level they have to be protected
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Posted: 2012-02-18 17:31:32
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@ Masseur - i have to agree with adsada, i dont think Apple have any innvotion left in them moreso now they've lost Jobs. I dont think they'll be competing on this level in two years time unless they start bringing someone new to the market. A budget iPhone perhaps ? even the cheapest 4S is out of most peoples price range.
Just like Nokia, Apple have robbed the drop down notification area of Google's. The fact they did that indicates early on they're now conerned that their competitors have something they must adopt. Its an early sign.
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Posted: 2012-02-18 20:49:10
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um, no innovation? did you not read anything about
Mountain Lion this week?
I'm definitely no Mac enthusiast, never have been except for neccessity of having a very old old macbook to do iOS developement on, but even this weeks revelations now make me consider seriously changing from Vaios that I have bought since Vaios first came out more than 10 years ago
Mountain Lion increases the whole ecosystem which for me has been what has made iOS/iTunes so useable, and this now makes their stuff so much more seamless that even I am starting to doubt my own prejudices and take that final leap
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Posted: 2012-02-18 20:57:29
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Well less than two hours ago my N8 bricked so i might just be joining the Apple army soon.
To be honest, i saw that video and it made me think the same. Tablet operating systems are coming close to replacing laptop operating systems. Windows 8 looks more like Windows phone than Windows 7.
Not sure thats really a bad thing, but im not really into desktop touchscreen computers.
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Posted: 2012-02-18 22:34:02
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On 2012-02-18 20:57:29, masseur wrote:
um, no innovation? did you not read anything about
Mountain Lion this week?
I'm definitely no Mac enthusiast, never have been except for neccessity of having a very old old macbook to do iOS developement on, but even this weeks revelations now make me consider seriously changing from Vaios that I have bought since Vaios first came out more than 10 years ago
Mountain Lion increases the whole ecosystem which for me has been what has made iOS/iTunes so useable, and this now makes their stuff so much more seamless that even I am starting to doubt my own prejudices and take that final leap
Yes innovation, lets shove our popular iOS into our failing OSX to try and boost sales! The hybrid they're trying to create is just stupid, its clear from Lion that the two can't really work well together, and now a short while later they're realising the next update Mountain Lion (and here I was thinking Apple were praised for their lack of fragmentation...) Yes in the post PC era I can see why it makes sense, but it really doesn't in Apple's way of doing business; on their hardware only. Its far more exciting to see Windows 8 and how this hybrid will compete in the market place. Its much more likely to succeed because Microsoft don't currently have any other OS for tablets (unlike Apple with their iPad) and also it will be able to run on a range of different third party hardware from desktop computers to tablets.
In Microsoft's case they have no other choice if they want to remain the top dogs in the market, but I think Apple should have left the two separate, developed iOS further and if this makes OSX obsolete then let it be so... Not that I think iOS has much of a future as far as marketshare goes, but its just Apple trying to control everything you do in their 'lovely' wall garden. I mean who needs a Mac Store? Too far.
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Posted: 2012-02-19 18:30:59
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