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greygo Posts: 1

Well I have to disagree with you, and with this strange although I guess understandable tribal behaviour of bashing Nokia phones. I've always thought that almost all Nokia models are very well designed both ergonomically and esthetically; on the other hand (Sony)Ericsson models have been quite ugly and I'm still not convinced of their design.

The user interface of Nokia phones may have been lacking before but it has always seemed very solid and logical; I've only used SE T68i for a few weeks now and although not being an expert on SE phones I wouldn't go around claiming that Nokia is like Microsoft on designing bad operating system. In fact I've always thought that Nokia is more like Apple in designing beautiful hardware with superior software; it's SE that's been making cluttered and illogical operating system/user interface. You must remember that just a few years ago Ericsson was much bigger than Nokia, but it fell far behind because of bad market strategies and, in my opinion, by not designing and manufacturing as good phones as Nokia.

The only reason that I bought T68i was because I'm a mac user and really the only option is to use SE phones in syncing mac with the phone; the quality that I really wanted. I certainly don't hate SE, but when I first came to these Esato forums and started noticing some similarities between pc / mac -debate that I've seen through the years I felt quite confused (and disgusted because of some comments that I've seen). And it didn't take long to realize that some people here would compare SE with Apple. Well, what can I say, to me Nokia has always been more design conscious and more stylish than Ericsson, and still is. And you must remember that Nokia doesn't seem to like Microsoft very much, and that can only be a good thing in this world that needs some balancing of economical power.

greygo
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Posted: 2003-02-15 17:52:00
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burmistrz Posts: 233

i need software for mac o/s 9.1 that works with se t68i
themes, sounds, mms, something???
please??
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Posted: 2003-02-16 01:15:00
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juming Posts: 141

I agree, previously nokia was good in model and reliability, but now it's reversed, if you try newer nokia you'll know what i mean, since 7210 and follower all nokia phone have worst performance and feature, simple example they all don't have voice dial, beside poor hardware and software reliability. It's opposed with SE right now. This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2003-02-16 01:46:00
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SpYder Posts: 33

The connection is there... lets hope it stays strong between Sony Ericsson & Apple... already integrated the T68i VERY well, lets see if the P800 gets on board as well as future models such as the Z1010... I am extremely happy with my T68i and G4 integration over Bluetooth.
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Posted: 2003-02-25 07:24:00
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d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z Posts: 186

microsoft rocks and the sales prove it and they are still the no. 1 in world no doubt about it. i also like apple stuff but their pc's are expensive. as for nokia and SE, they are both the same now to me. nokia makes phones with bugs so does SE. it's true, it's true

[ This Message was edited by: d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z on 2003-02-25 07:12 ]
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Posted: 2003-02-25 08:10:00
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baileynash Posts: 226

The only SE phone with a problem is that crappy T65 piece of junk. But as for their other phones, ain't no problems. Nokia I don't think has probs either :S. As for Mac, Mac is the worst, Microsoft is by far the leading and better company.
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Posted: 2003-02-25 10:04:00
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iyiinsan Posts: 366

@d_a_r_k_n_e_z_z

I think Mac rocks cause I bought a new PC a week ago - P4 2,4 Ghz, 256 mb ddr-ram, Windows XP Home, etc, etc... And an iMac I used two years ago had better performance!!! It was also less buggy and it was easier to use...

I think that Nokia is the same as my PC - there are deluding features but It doesn't satisfy me but has everything I want and need... Go and Mac!!!

PS: I'm a bad, betraying PC user!!!
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Posted: 2003-02-25 10:07:00
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dazbradbury Posts: > 500

No way, PC's are so much better, i'm not saying that microsoft is great because i dont think it is, but the design seems so much better than that of a mac. There is so much more available for pc and at half the price, plus my freind has a G4 dual 1ghz with two sweet flatscreens, ok it looks sweet and i would love the screens, but the price he payed was outrageous, and my PC (2ghz P4, 512 sd ram) is so much more reliable and quick, i understand that the mac procecessor and hardware is essentially better, but his seems to crahs constantly and allways slow down. maybe it's OSX?? i'm not sure, but i am a PC fan and i think i will be for quite a long time....
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Posted: 2003-02-25 10:41:00
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TheScorp Posts: 58

...and the discussion could go on, and on and on and on.

Nokia was the first one with the brilliant design, and a VERY easy menu system, and that is why they have the biggest part of the market today. And the same goes for Microsoft, they gave out a system which was easy to operate and got it out before Apple even realised that they copied most of it

But still, both MAC and PC have their primary working area, and the discussion is dumb considering that PC != Windows. PC are more than just Windows. But people are like always having problems seeing that ;p

ALl systems have like I said, a primary working area, and that is the way its gonna be!


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Posted: 2003-02-26 03:24:00
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T68iFan Posts: 214

i've used both for many years. i think both are good but different: mac good 4 music and design, win better for business. yes, frequent upgrade cost $$, but thats what pays for new innovation. winxp pro is a stable, powerful and attractive os. 1 downside of win - you have 2 b part techie to fix missing drivers, etc. This message was posted from a T68i
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Posted: 2003-02-26 03:54:00
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