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Funny enough, the Galaxy Ace was thrown out along with international S2 and S3.
Many of the infringing devices are legacy ones, and with Samsung averaging a good +1.5billion USD in income per month, the damages arent going to affect them that much.

What this will do is force some OEMs out of the US Market, and the US consumers are going to lose out, there's no "real" winner here, in the short term, yes, Apple, long term? By forcing Samsung to innovate Apple have dug themselves a grave, as we've seen over the years, Samsung adapts quickly and is just as cable of creating their own category of device e.g. Galaxy Note, their R&D dep. is on overdrive now im sure.
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Posted: 2012-08-25 19:49:31
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Yeah, and most of them finished with sentence "You can't patent something as trivial as rectangular shape, patent is invalid" Same patents that US court decided Samsung was infringing. Funny isn't it?;]
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Posted: 2012-08-25 19:51:43
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The 1.5B USD is just a bonus. proven guilty in court is something else.
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Posted: 2012-08-25 19:59:24
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Source : http://www.groklaw.net/


In two instances, results were crazily contradictory, and the judge had to have the jury go back and fix the goofs. As a result the damages award was reduced to $1,049,343,540, down from $1,051,855,000. For just one example, the jury had said one device didn't infringe, but then they awarded Apple $2 million for inducement. In another they awarded a couple of hundred thousand for a device they'd ruled didn't infringe at all. This all was revealed by The Verge in its live blog coverage:

The jury appears to have awarded damages for the Galaxy Tab 10.1 LTE infringing — $219,694 worth — but didn't find that it had actually infringed anything....A similar inconsistency exists for the Intercept, for which they'd awarded Apple over $2 million
Intercept: "The jury found no direct infringement but did find inducement" for the '915 and '163 utility patents. If a device didn't infringe, it would be rather hard for a company to induce said non-existant infringement.

Obviously, something is very wrong with this picture. The Verge also reported that the jury foreman, who is a patent holder himself, told court officials that the jury didn't need the answer to its question to reach a verdict:
The foreman told a court representative that the jurors had reached a decision without needing the instructions.
That's why I don't think this jury's ruling will stand, among other reasons.

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Posted: 2012-08-25 20:01:10
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1 Billion dollar pay to Apple is not a Bonus, they are guilty!!!
Finely some company take that Korean copycat down, if others do the same instead make a deal Samsung will get down where they belong.

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Posted: 2012-08-25 20:03:48
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titus
Indeed. On the other hand, this whole trial has given Samsung a tremendous amount of brand awareness, its almost as if they are paying Apple for all the marketing.
Consumers will want to try Samsungs even more now that Samsung were found guilty, they want to see what all this fuss is about, why Apple are trying so hard to punish them.

Worf1000
Thanks for making me laugh do you have any concrete written and proven evidence that Samsung blatantly copied others? or are you just blabbering on about nothing due to your utter hate and dislike of Samsung and their success in the market?
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Posted: 2012-08-25 21:13:41
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Bose opened their first store in 1993:



Apple opened their first store in 2001 Who is copying who ?


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Posted: 2012-08-25 23:04:56
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The latter i reckon.

Apple blatantly copied Android with their version of the pull down notification shade. But these pro-Apple drones forget things like that.

This whole thing is ridiculous and so typical of a US courtroom, no offence to any Americans here on Esato but they're the only country that can strike up court cases for such ridiculous reasons. Anyone ever watched Judge Judy ?

US court, US judge, US citizens regardless of their nativity, there could only be one winner.

Apple tried the same trick in a UK court recently, the judge basically told them to **** off and threw the case out. Over here, we've got our bad habbits but our judicial system has been on the go for hundreds of years. We know whats sensible and whats just showbusiness.


I agree though, i dont think Samsung copied at all. They did obviously took some inspiration, but then so did Nokia, HTC, the lot of them ! And, i do think Samsung will probably turn out to be the better of the two with this loss(?), if you can call it a loss.
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Posted: 2012-08-25 23:06:55
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You welcome, here are some links.

This has nothing to do with dislike, i hate copycats thats all. Apple is first company that fight for their case in the future while otrher companies get money from Samsung and Samsung will win in the long term.

Here is how Sammie get big to copies those tech from others.

From Sharp ( http://news.softpedia.com/new[....]t-Wars-Sharp-vs-Samsung-2.jpg/ ) meanwhile solve by Sharp demand Billions of dollars from samsung (stupid from Sharp)

From Ericsson ( http://www.pcworld.com/articl[....]son_settle_patent_dispute.html ) meanwhile solve by Ericsson paid by Samsung (stupid from Ericsson)
Rambus ( http://wirelessfederation.com[....]g-settles-dispute-with-rambus/ )

From Osram ( http://worldgreen.org/enterpr[....]are-off-in-led-patent-war.html )

From qualcomm ( http://translate.google.nl/tr[....]LOKn0QX3koGACw&ved=0CD0Q7gEwAg )

From Apple ( http://www.forbes.com/sites/c[....]to-the-courtroom-play-by-play/ )

From Microsoft ( http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fi[....]-take-on-Google-and-Apple.html )

From Seagate ( https://www.hightable.com/dat[....]-over-solid-state-drives-23456 )

All those stolen tech is very important for Samsung devisions what we now see.

This has nothing to do with dislike, i hate copycats thats all. Apple is first company that fight for their case in the future while other companies get money from Samsung and Samsung will win in the long term.

There are some more companies at the moment, you know that Sony also give OLED tech to Sammie for producing those panels? Vita screens ring that a bell?

Samsung is big because they are the biggest criminals in the world and i never spent one single Euro or Dollar for their products.



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Posted: 2012-08-25 23:18:43
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This is pathetic and really makes me hate Apple even more. etaab you are bang on about the Americans they love suing the shit out of each other! Apple tried to do the same thing in Austrailia and ban the galaxy tab 10.1, but people were smart and imported in from hong kong. The. Aussie court reacted the same as the UK. I think there is a bit of political motives behind Apple's intentions, I think it's sick. and really if we all ended up with Apple products the world would be a VERY boring and restrictive place!

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Posted: 2012-08-25 23:34:42
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