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This is just rumours and bullshit. Things are looking up for Nokia recently.

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Posted: 2013-01-03 13:39:00
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This wouldn't surprise me if it were true, and if it does happen it will be another example of why it just isn't always a great idea to team up with Microsoft, they have a habit of ruining their partners and competitors in unforgivable ways.

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I agree with your 1st two posts, people seem to think MS are just going to continue to fund Nokia no matter what, they forget the fact that MS once did consider buying Nokia as a whole but backed out once they saw the poor state Nokia was in financially, at the end of the day MS is a business that's focused on making profit and satisfying its board, at some point the investors will begin or have begun I'm sure to pressure Balmer into doing something about Nokia, like loosen ties, and partner up with another OEM (Htc), and they ,may also just buy the mobile business.

I also can't see Nokia bouncing back to what they were, they had the chance and blew it BIG time, their biggest mistake was leaving Symbian and Maemo/MeeGo, they had a chance to reinvent the touch UI and mobile computing, and then Elop arrived.

However in terms of Android, your last post, I disagree ,and agree with Etaab, Android is nowhere near done, the Android arena is a dynamic one, yes, Samsung are totally owning right now, but go back 2years ago and it was Htc, everyone seems to forget that. Sony had their chance and they COMPLETELY F'D it up, everyone seems to be blaming Samsung for the other OEMs not making money, but just look at the crap some of these OEMs produce and put their customers through, it's no wonder Samsung are owning them. Sony for example are delaying updates and releasing too many flagships in one year. In 2012 alone we had Xperia S, Acro S and Xperia T, on the other hand we have LG who's update support near to non-existent even for flagships, Htc seem to be trying to comeback, Motorola are downsizing and seem to only be serving the US market, the only OEMs who seem to be making any sort of major inroads are the Chinese, once they sort out their distribution channels I can just see Huawei, ZTE and w few others posing a real threat to Samsung.
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Posted: 2013-01-03 13:50:15
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yeah I was just kidding, It's just that if this became true then all that research and breakthrough pureview did might just end up as a waste, don't know if microsoft has much use for it either.

I do agree with Tsepz, they should have stayed with symbian or meego, or I'd say if nokia did choose android during the time it was just starting to get popular, (when samsung just started using android and still had their bada OS wave phones) Nokia might've gotten a chance.

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Posted: 2013-01-03 16:25:53
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Tsepz_GP may or may not remember around the time of the release of the N8 (Oct 2010), prior to Elop's Feb'11 burning platform statement we had quite a few strong words here on Esato about how i thought Symbian was still the best solution, whilst many thought it was dead compared to Android.

I said back then Symbian was still the best - and i still stand by that in many ways even though ive retired my old Symbian phones. Back then i thought Nokia should have done this, and i still think they should have done:

- Relegated Symbian to featurephone status and dump series 40

- Run Symbian 4 (never happened) AND / OR MeeGo as their flagship devices to take on the competition

- Run WP at the same time in case the above didnt work out.

Personally i dont think Nokia are going anywhere. WP8 is stunning, the new Lumia phones are stunning and it all makes the iPhone look old. Given a few more months or a year, WP8 should start making more dents in iOS market share as people wake up from the iOS brainwash.
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Posted: 2013-01-04 21:37:56
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@etaab I say Samsung is great with software,marketing etc but definately not design
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Posted: 2013-01-05 14:03:00
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In what way though ? I certainly dont think Samsung phones are badly designed or ugly. Maybe a little uninspiring but thats about it.

Theres only so much you can do with a full touch driven phone these days. You have a screen on the front and camera on the back.

Theres little room for design differences other than changing the colour of the phone, the materials used or overall shape. Look at the Lumia phones, suddenly Nokia is screaming at HTC for copying their colourful designs - but what else could they do ???
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Posted: 2013-01-05 17:53:44
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Samsung devices are great but definitely not the prettiest ones on the planet.

Nokia will sell even more of it's WP devices simply because Nokia makes the best hardware and cameras out there.
I hope that Nokia can go with one more OS other than WP.
Only Apple now is based on one OS...
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Posted: 2013-01-07 13:43:45
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Samsung is killing everyone in the android realm... Nokia wouldn't stand a chance coming in that late in the "game"

http://www.htc.com/www/about/[....]-unaudited-results-for-4q-2012

http://www.gsmarena.com/q4_co[....]otselling_phones-news-5296.php


I don't know what makes them think that it will be any better with WP .. but overall, the reality is that WP will never dominate the market like Symbian did before, and therefore its pretty unlikely for Nokia as well. Again.. if they go Android they are facing Samsung, and there is no way they can dominate there.

The reason they were on top for so long was because they understood Symbian better than anyone (ironic, I know) and their competition simply had no chance. Even Ericsson couldn't keep up...

So from that perspective, Nokia needs to downsize very quickly. They were pushing between 15-20 million smartphones 3-4 years ago, now... they sell around 2-4 mil. with the help of Symbian.. Q4 results are out on the 21st I think, so we will see.. but I don't expect more than 4 mil. Lumias sold, and that is nowhere near where that number needs to be in order to sustain a company of this size. Yes.. they did make a lot of cuts, so their expenses are down.. but still, they need to move more boxes.
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Posted: 2013-01-07 18:29:06
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Nokia Android rumours again

http://www.wpcentral.com/stephen-elop-possibly-considering-android-were-skeptical
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Posted: 2013-01-07 23:33:00
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http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia[....]uarter_last_year-news-5329.php

And things are starting to look a bit better for Nokia
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Posted: 2013-01-10 16:50:24
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