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Sounds like a combination of jealousy tinted with a lack of confidence in your choice of device ?
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Posted: 2013-10-01 21:46:46
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Great, you've just made me laugh my ass off
Thank you for making my day

If you don't see anything wrong with something like that than maybe next year samsung will put 16mpix sensor in S5 but include only 12mpix option

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Posted: 2013-10-01 21:50:09
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Well this is all a little deja-vu of a conversation which was aimed at discrediting Samsung which occurred in the S4 thread, which as always proved nothing and was jumped upon by the usual suspects as a very weak argument.

Rather than having the same conversation, maybe you should go check it out and be educated.
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Posted: 2013-10-01 21:56:20
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I would be far more pissed of at Sony for always promising great displays and the best of cameras and not delievering

About the benchmarks: please try to replicate 0-60 on a company published car. Their tests have been done under ideal conditions for best possible results.

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Posted: 2013-10-01 22:03:45
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Heh I was just thinking the same thing. I bought a new car recently and find it slower than my old car 0-60, even though it has a bigger engine. Mind you, going from a medium sized car to a family sized car means it weighs more.
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Posted: 2013-10-01 22:06:03
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Educated? About what?
I was taking part in that discussion and met with the same kind of response as this time - "it's no problem that they made it perform better in benchmarks than in other applications".

And here we are again with Samsungs newest and best device yet and the situation repeats itself but hey it's me that's being childish and with confidence problems.

Heck, even USB3.0 something that was praised as first on market and very useful etc. was proved by anandtech to be no different from USB2.0 at this point.

@Rikken
And you think I'm not pissed about this?! Problem is that you might get a great screen as it was proven with Z Ultra or Z1 or get lower quality one, this lottery is what really pisses me off. That is why I'm not going to buy another Sony device until they sort it out.
About the camera it's more complicated, things like decentered lenses that can cause part of the image to be out of focus is something that happens all the time with lenses that are more expensive than Z1 and Note 3 combined yet nobody judges it quality until he gets good copy, the same should apply to camera phones. Guys responsible for letting out Z1's with decentered lenses should get fired.

That's not a good example, it's not about getting the lowest time from 0-60 but achieving the highest possible speed. And as you said they all do their tests under ideal conditions with the help of best test drivers available.

If all OEM's would do the same thing as samsung and use 100% of the power just for the sake of getting the highest score than it wouldn't be a problem but if it's exclusive for samsung than it distorts the whole picture, don't you understand that?
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Posted: 2013-10-01 22:17:48
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As I said before, I don't care about benchmarks coz it's real-life performance that matters and the Note 3 is outstanding. If Sammy has cheated it is not my problem. I just want the best overall package
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Posted: 2013-10-01 22:26:52
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And that is what I wanted to hear
If you're all OK with the fact that Samsung cheats but their devices either way perform as they should then I have nothing more to add in this discussion
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Posted: 2013-10-01 22:37:28
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Where did I say I think it is ok with cheating (I am not sure it is cheating) ? I said I don't care about these things, it is not my problem nor my responsibility

Review by anandtech : http://www.anandtech.com/show/7376/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review/4

"CPU performance is honestly excellent. The Galaxy Note 3 is more or less the fastest Android smartphone we've tested up to this point. In the situations where we can do cross platform (OS/browser) comparisons, it isn't quite as fast as the iPhone 5s but in some cases it comes close. I should mention that the Note 3 (like many other Android devices - SGS4, HTC One) detects certain benchmarks and ensures CPU frequencies are running at max while running them, rather than relying on the benchmark workload to organically drive DVFS to those frequencies. Max supported CPU frequency is never exceeded in this process, the platform simply primes itself for running those tests as soon as they're detected."

It's also interesting to note that the Galaxy Note 3 appears to outperform all other Snapdragon 800 smartphones we've tested thus far. There's a couple of potential explanations here. First, the Galaxy Note 3 is using newer drivers than any of the other S800 platforms we've tested:

Note 3: 04.03.00.125.077
Padfone: 04.02.02.050.116
G2: 4.02.02.050.141

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Posted: 2013-10-01 22:49:37
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This is no difference from nVidia cheating with their drivers when they release their shitty Geforce FX line up back then. Their DX9 performance was complete crap that it was down right embarrassing so they got to cheat to keep up with ATI Radeon 970 pro. Sure at the time in DX9 wasn't as important and their DX8 performance was still acceptable and comparable but still It shows how much confidence they got with their products to begin with if they got to do this sort of thing.
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Posted: 2013-10-01 23:10:37
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