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Orange and all other UK networks are aware when a SIM is used to make a call. Orange, however, link the phone to the SIM as well by IMEI and can tell whether this is being used with a different as the networks now share such info for the use of balcklisting the IMEIs of stolen handsets. Therefore, if a phone is registered stolen by a network, the IMEI is blacklisted, rendering it useless on any UK network.
As for Orange Care, due to the above, Care is voided if the handset is being used with a different SIM and they know as they can track the IMEI with the SIM. However, they're still Orange and they rarely check anything. If you need to claim for damage, you can actually send back any Orange P800 and they'd accept it as long as it is registered with them as one of their handsets of the same model.
This should clear up a few things...
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Posted: 2003-03-11 23:54:00
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Like i said they know what sim is being used... they just dont look unless they need to...
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Posted: 2003-03-12 03:20:00
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ok guys, thanks for the info, but if my phone broke but was unlocked then would i have a problem taking it to them? Also do you know their policy on removing the orange logo and wether it's ok to do so?
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Posted: 2003-03-12 08:24:00
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AFAIK, it voids warranty. Also orange have the right to refuse for a year untill the subsidised cost of the handset is recovered. Is an oftel reg.
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Posted: 2003-03-12 08:30:00
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I would like to see this in the Orange Care t&c..
As far as I know (as above) they only know whats being used on their networks; My t68 has the orange sim in it, and i use the p800 on voda..
Thus Orange will know im using a t68 but won't know what im doing with the p800 and vice versa for voda.
I tried to cancel the Orange Care last night (within 14 days) and they wouldn't do it so im going to write a nasty letter.
Apparently Orange Care isn't included in the HSCD package anymore...
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Posted: 2003-03-12 13:06:00
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gadgetboytom Posts: > 500
look stop trying to fiddle orange
its simple if you dont use there service you arent insured
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Posted: 2003-03-12 13:51:00
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fiddle orange? i want to use a different sim along with my orange one, there aint nothing wrong with that, i just dont want to waste £5 a month if i cant use it.
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Posted: 2003-03-12 13:54:00
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why dont u try other sims in the p800?? i mean ive had a 7650 on orange before and it was locket to orange and t-mobile & virgin, in other words only o2 and vodafone wouldnt work on it so maybe one of the other chips u may want to use in it may work...
worth a try what ya got to lose and why dont u ask some one to unlock it in a orange shop or a cpw or the link?? the may do it (u can allways offer a pribe to someone in orange shop?)
[ This Message was edited by: jamatjam on 2003-03-12 12:59 ]
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Posted: 2003-03-12 13:58:00
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Will they let you cancel it though if you can't... they wouldn't let me.. (within 14 days)
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Posted: 2003-03-12 14:00:00
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Thing is though, i have my p800 on orange, which i use with an orange sim in it (at the moment) but it is unlocked, and like someone said before, if a situation arose where i needed it repaired and they wouldn't do it due to it being unlocked, i would do the following. I would phone orange, ask them to unlock it, then they would ask for the rest of my 12 months line rental up front, which i would pay, then pay them £20 to unlock it, and then the orange care would still be valid. Even if the service people phoned orange to check whether it had been unlocked "officially" then orange would say yes and everything would be ok. I think. I hope anyway...
I only got it unlocked so i could use different sims in case i had to!
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Posted: 2003-03-12 14:23:00
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