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this is genuine, someone posted another photo of this in another thread just recently. it's a big phone, doesn't have a camera, and the antenna is pretty sizable, but it is a few years old now. it was cancelled in favour of what we now know as the p800.
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Posted: 2003-03-13 19:51:00
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i don't like the directional pad, it's like on siemens. i guess it could be easier for bigger hands?
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Posted: 2003-03-13 19:55:00
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an ericsson photo of there P800 is unlikely to be found. ericsson would've named the P800 the SC78 thats all i know about it.
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Posted: 2003-03-13 19:55:00
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This was supposed to be the successor of the R520. Ericsson never released it because they were having financial problems already. This was the photo I posted earlier.



It was huge... but as you can see... it already had UIQ running on it. (UIQ v 1.0, initially called Quartz)

And yes, it needed a headset to be used as a phone. But it did use SD cards instead of the Duo... and yes, it does look better. IF they had just followed this design frame... the P800 would've looked a lot better... oh well... we'll just wait for the Mineral Gray case of the P800!

This message was posted from a P800 with a Frappuccino® machine
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Posted: 2003-03-13 20:27:00
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In my mind, Sony can design (shape) and finance and let Ericsson engineer.That model is unapealing.
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Posted: 2003-03-15 03:08:00
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OH MY DEAR LORD..
that antenna is larger than a horse's wand!!

+ I doubt it has a camera built in nor all the cool features we hv built in..
ericsson phones suck.. I think the S in SE makes it worth buying
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Posted: 2003-03-15 04:00:00
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I can almost recall the Siemens SX-45 (the mega brick) !! Anyhow, this device was not going to be as practical as the P800. Was it a tri-band?

The P800 in fact is 10000000000 times better than this whatyoumaycallit

Looks like Sony made a good job with Ericsson when this joint venture was made.

Well Done SE!
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Posted: 2003-03-16 19:48:00
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this is all very unfair on ericsson- it's an old picture of a *prototype* phone that may, or may not, have been released long before SE came into being.

as much as i like sony, their input into the technology of SE phones has so far been minimal, and their influence on design has mostly been pretty regrettable.

the p800 owes nothing to sony, other than an umpteen month delay while they got their precious ms duo to work with it. without that, it would have been exactly the same (ericsson) phone, with a more practical memory solution, and been released back at a time when a phone like the p800 would actually have impressed people.
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Posted: 2003-03-17 01:27:00
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I still think the P800 is impressive..
ppl r still in awe everyday
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Posted: 2003-03-17 01:40:00
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On 2003-03-16 19:48, Devilishcry wrote:
I can almost recall the Siemens SX-45 (the mega brick) !! Anyhow, this device was not going to be as practical as the P800. Was it a tri-band?

The P800 in fact is 10000000000 times better than this whatyoumaycallit

Looks like Sony made a good job with Ericsson when this joint venture was made.

Well Done SE!



First of all, this Ericsson device was made back in 2001. It was a completely working prototype. Tri-band, GPRS, Bluetooth, Voice command, UIQ v.1 (Quartz), SD memory, 320x240 16-bit display, 5-way joystick.

Yes it was large... but considering that the only things Sony contributed to this original design to give us the P800 were the jog-dial, camera & MemoryStick Duo (if you call that an advantage)

Sony has great manufacturing, & marketing. Design-wise... they have good designers, and bad ones... apparently, the bad ones went to and drove out the good ones from Ericsson.

Sony can only improve existing technology, they don't really put much importance in R&D... this approach works well in the merger with Ericsson since Ericsson's manufacturing really sucks.

Give credit where credit is due.. Sony contributed money, manufacturing and marketing...Ericsson contributed technology, innovation, and their name. I'm sorry, but as big as Sony is... Sony mobile phones had an ever smaller market than Ericsson... I've never heard anyone call an phone a Sony...but most people still call as Ericsson.
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Posted: 2003-03-17 03:16:00
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