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I agree with you 100%, you're right just compailning and saying that
is the worst phone company in the world is not productive ( and definitly not true
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T.M.
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Posted: 2003-05-09 16:10:00
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i dont think theres to much complaining on here most people are blindly in love with se what ever they do.
se could sell a piece of dog crap (literally) and some people on here would say it was a better phone than nokia has ever released.
a bit of constuctive critism helps i believe it may help the people at se see they have support and we the consumers would like to see certain things happen with the next lot of phones or software.
if people did nt say anything nothing would get done.
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Posted: 2003-05-09 17:16:00
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Negative comment is sometimes a good motivation for a company to improve, or say, a good way for their marketing research. But of course, people should not always just say the bad things about a product but never say the objective user comment, or else he would just become a die hard "Anti-SE" bullshit.
Someone argue with me and said I was saying stupid things about memory allocation issue. Someone even ask me stop complaining. I'm really upset to hear them. Giving good points for a phone is big job of the manufacturer, but not us. Users should give their comment to others for reference, but not just praise the phone and its specification. Of course, there are both positive and negative comment. Someone see there are some posts about negative comment and say "stop!!! don't just say some negative comment to T610!!!" or something like that with the reason "don't just give negative point but also positive point".
I can say that, most people giving negative comment have also posted some positive comment. At least I have. I have posted ten points in a little review and the memory problem is just one point of them (although it is the longest as I have to explain it).
It is a forum but not just for praising a product or blame a product. We should give a balance, objective user comment and news to others.
It's very sad enough in some Hong Kong forums as people there just say bad things about SE. For instance, once a user asks whether T68i is good, some people will just say "if you want to waste money to take bus to the service centre, then go to buy it" or "SE phones have many many bugs!!!", "T68i has no SIM phonebook editing, what a rubbish phone!", "Don't buy SE phones otherwise you'll regret", "People always have learnt a lesson after buying one SE phone, hahaha". Once SE sales say some minor wrong things, they will even say "SE phones have many bugs, and their employee also have many bugs as well! Hahaha".... They treat SE's issue as a joke, and repeat them everyday once they see something saying about SE phones. They may even think that they are winner as they scare away so many people supporting SE.
But actually, as I know, many people do not want to post things anymore just because their words are so annoying and meaningless.
But here, the situation is totally different. I really like this forum as it has so many objective user comment and has so many news about SE products. However, I find that someone still not like me mentioning bad things about SE and just say "it is enough!", "stop compaining!", "SE is perfect!", "Nokia sucks and SE rocks!" (without reaonable reasons). Hey, why not just give me an opportunity to say the things I want SE to improve? I'm not someone who just say "don't buy SE phones otherwise you'll regret", etc, with just some OLD reasons. Good things I will praise for them, but bad things we have to comment also. If we all just praise the good things, SE may never consider their bad things and haven't idea to improve.
Why Nokia is so successful? One main reason is that they find and make what we like to have. They really listen to customers! For example, people complain no auto keylock and call summary, and they add it in their new phones. Developers ask things and Nokia will reply very quickly. But SE, I think they do not really like to listen customers' ideas. Some developers in SE developer forum even blame SE giving the poorest support for them.
Hey, too long for my "stupid" message. I hope all people here will have no hard feeling and forgive me saying the above "stupid" points. Let's enjoy using what we like to use
and accept others' opinion as the world is so big and different people have different value judgement.
I'm making some themes for T610 and will post to my website shortly, hope you all enjoy and accept them as a compensation for what I did and say wrongly.
[ This Message was edited by: djk on 2003-05-10 13:04 ]
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Posted: 2003-05-10 12:00:00
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look. youve got an se. if its broken, get sum1 to fix it. if it aint, then
NEWSFLASH:
Scientists have just discovered that complaining makes everything right again. They have also just discovered that every single mobile phone is 100% perfect, suiting evrey1's needs and never being dissapointing!
Sheesh man, whoever posted this topic is sooooo innit. thanx, because sony ericsson try their best. and they sell phones for a low price with loadsa features. nokia just overprice, and samsung are just for fashion.
is practical, fun and stylish. just be grateful u chose the right brand!
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Posted: 2003-05-10 12:30:00
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I don't care what anyone says... here's my complaint..... Sony Ericsson make ugly looking phones, thats why Ericsson is loosing money. Putting money into ugly pieces of work is pointless.
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Posted: 2003-05-10 13:12:00
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On 2003-05-10 12:30, daredeviluk wrote:
Sheesh man, whoever posted this topic is sooooo innit.
must be getting old (ok i am
) but what does soooo innit mean? ta
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Posted: 2003-05-10 13:14:00
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well at the end of the day we're the ones who shell out our hard earned cash on these products so I think we have a right to complain about a phone!! We're the ones who keep these companies in business and if they dont listen to our criticism then the simple fact is we wont buy their phones and they'll go out of business. Just because its made by SE doesnt mean we should just accept a phones faults!
power to the people baby
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Posted: 2003-05-10 13:56:00
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I, and complaining against SE, NEVER !!
SE RULZ !!
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Posted: 2003-05-10 14:05:00
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maybe another way to let everyone complain listen by SE is to work in company tht supply components to SE or best....work with SE.
every single complain of die hard fan will be able to channel into the organisation. Of course one or two person can't make any significant but don't let that hamper yourself if you come across with such chance. Tht's what I called TRUE DIE HARD SE FAN coz you even work to get their product running.
You will be happy to see your contribution come to real world and no doubt you can feel sad when the challenge is so huge.
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Posted: 2003-05-10 14:10:00
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people who are knowledgable about stuff complain all the time. No one who knows anything about phones would get a samsung or sanyo or something else thats why you hear no complaints. The people wouldn't even know what to complain about. But most owners of higher end SE phones try out every feature of the phones and all at the same time and find every bug there is. So they complain.
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Posted: 2003-05-11 03:43:00
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