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A couple of updates. If you have a look at the Wayfinder demo on their website (http://www.wayfinder.biz/flashdemo.htm), it clearly states that the P800 version will be available from June 30 (although it remains to be seen). The demonstration also shows that the application has a map view, so it's probably been updated after the review above was written.
One thing remains a bit foggy: If you buy the Swedish version of the software, will you just have access to Swedish maps/addresses, or will I be allowed to download maps for i.e. Britain or France? Can I get rid of my A to Z?
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Posted: 2003-06-23 10:06:58
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wayfinder is nice but why not use telmap (http://www.telmap.co.il) they claim to already have a p800 version, I talked to them on the phone and they said that they currently have solutions for Europe (which doesn't really help me cause I need the maps and GPS for the Middle East and the US) but they said they would consider me for beta testing in the US, I'll post any updates .....
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Posted: 2003-06-23 14:17:31
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On 2003-06-23 14:17:31, kaaspad wrote:
wayfinder is nice but why not use telmap (http://www.telmap.co.il) they claim to already have a p800 version
Thanks for the tip, kaaspad. Did they say anything about price? Is there a subscription fee? The web site doesn't say very much about where I can buy it, either.
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Posted: 2003-06-23 14:53:47
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apparently their system works with or without a GPS module, it can work stand alone, via GSM crisscross or with a GPS module. The maps can be prestored on the device or downloaded in realtime, but they are apparently very small files. I wrote the marketing dept. there and they answer pretty fast, you should write them with any questions you have
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Posted: 2003-06-23 16:41:25
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Ok, here are my 2 cents worth on this old topic of interest...
I originally wanted a GPS option as well on my P800... I thought it would be great to have a Bluetooth GPS receiver on the roof of my car, sending signals to my P800 in its car cradle, directing me where to go... then there was a Bluetooth GPS module available... I thought, "Ok, now all we need to wait for is software support"... but then I realized that this setup is actually worse than buying a dedicated Garmin GPS receiver.
First of all, Garmin is one of the best GPS makers on the market. They are used in planes, boats, and other heavy duty environments. I believe the GPS systems built into Mercs and Bimmers are by Garmin as well.
Now, my thinking is this... if I had a GPS on my P800... for about the same price as a fully featured color screen Garmin Street Pilot... would it out perform the Garmin? Or would it just be an expensive "geek" solution, just to be able to say "Hey! My P800 has GPS"... I realized that this is one area that a BT GPS would fall very short of a similarly priced Garmin dashmounted unit.
As much as I love my P800... and everything it can do... unless the price of the BT GPS receivers drops BELOW US$200... I'm sticking with Garmin. (Yes, I bought the Garmin instead.. reception is much better, it can be battery powered, hand-held, and it's water resistant)
So, for those of you dying for BT GPS... you can get a much better GPS system from either Garmin or Magellan for the same price as the BT GPS receivers... and they work.
There... just my 2 cents worth... now, if all you want is a GPS system on your P800... no matter how poorly it performs... then you can wait for SW support for the few BT GPS units out on the market.. I'm sure the software won't be that far off.
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Posted: 2003-06-23 17:16:58
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@jplacson: I'm still waiting for my GlobalSat BT GPS receiver which is based on the same chipset as the EMTAC receiver, which I bought on ebay for a little over $200.
BTW, here's a review of the EMTAC, Fortuna and TomTom BT GPS receivers:
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/menu_gpshardware3.asp
I am not familiar with the Garmin Street Pilot, map updates and so on, but I hope that I will be able to use my BT GPS receiver with other devices than the P800 in the future. I guess the Street Pilot would allow this too, but exploring a foreign city as a pedestrian using GPS seems like an attractive idea to me (if it works in real life).
I guess we all have different needs... and expectations. And some of us are just geeks!
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Posted: 2003-06-23 19:35:26
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Mike in Switzerland - are you in CH?
Have a look here:
http://www.swisscom-mobile.ch/sp/O5FAAAAA-en.html
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"The City Map prepares map sections showing the current location of the mobile phone user. They are based on location data provided by the mobile network and cartographical data. To provide more precise information on the location, the user receives a list of streets from which he can click on the relevant one, adding the house number as well if he wishes. The map sections and the scale can be altered. The maps can be displayed in black and white or colour and optimised for the respective mobile screen."
all you need...
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Posted: 2003-06-25 11:46:02
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Telmap from
www.telmap.com should be released soon for P800. It works without a GPS card and will provide routing information via voice, maps and text directions. Won't give positioning or moving map though.
Simon
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Posted: 2003-06-25 14:32:43
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I commend people who try and make the P800 do everything. Unfortunately, the P800 is NOT the answer to everything ! In this case, like someone mentioned, Garmin (or even Magellan) have been in the GPS market for years. There products are made to do the job for navigation. They are small and very easy to use. The P800 is more of a Phone with a PDA function. It will not be a good GPS system (and can't be on it's own anyway). It will not make you a cup of tea or drive you to work or solve the Iraq crisis. I wish it could - would make life a lot easier and replace Microsoft with SE !!!!
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Posted: 2003-06-25 14:43:32
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@manu
I don't want my P800 to do everything. I don't question Garmin's and other companies experience in this field. I think it's a good thing that I'll be able to use my GPS receiver with other devices when my P800's retired (laptop, pocket pc, other phones).
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Posted: 2003-06-25 18:27:06
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